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Thoughts on Hell?
RE: Thoughts on Hell?
(October 21, 2017 at 8:55 pm)Astreja Wrote:
(October 21, 2017 at 8:50 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Reminds me of a book my first wife's parents once bought me: Escape From Reason by Francis Schaeffer, the Evangelical "intellectual" of his day. It purported to show how modern philosophy had lost its way and had led us all to the cultural malaise and relativism that threatened to undermine civilization (read: proper Christian Civilization). It was awful in a fascinating way. If I recall correctly, he 'disposed' of Kant in something like two or three pages and Hume in the same amount of space. His treatment of every major thinker he dealt with was equally ham-handed, undiscerning, incomplete, dishonest, and shameful.

Oh, that's nasty shit.  My first encounter with Kant was unproductive because I didn't have the patience to slog through Critique of Pure Reason at the time (and donated the book so that someone else could have a go of it).  However, a 3-page treatment of Kant in the context of Schaeffer's book is utterly shameful. Sad

Yes, but it provides a unique glimpse into the Evangelical world of ideas. No wonder there are so many Evangelicals running around, thinking they have a handle on philosophy, science, and history. They are peddled books by supposed authorities on these subjects -- books, many of which can be comfortably read in a sitting or two -- and then sent out into the big, bad world to do battle with these cultural hobgoblins that exist mostly in their imaginations.

It's sad.
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Thoughts on Hell? - by SisterAgatha - October 11, 2017 at 9:13 am
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 11, 2017 at 10:01 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 13, 2017 at 3:40 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Industrial Atheist - October 13, 2017 at 4:28 am
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 18, 2017 at 4:53 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by pocaracas - October 18, 2017 at 5:27 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 18, 2017 at 11:15 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Silver - October 17, 2017 at 11:01 am
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 13, 2017 at 4:41 am
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 11, 2017 at 11:21 am
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2017 at 9:54 pm
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2017 at 11:31 am
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 14, 2017 at 12:13 am
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 23, 2017 at 10:20 pm
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Whateverist - October 23, 2017 at 10:52 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 25, 2017 at 1:55 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 25, 2017 at 3:07 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mister Agenda - October 25, 2017 at 4:28 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 25, 2017 at 6:55 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 26, 2017 at 7:08 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 27, 2017 at 12:17 am
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 28, 2017 at 1:12 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 28, 2017 at 1:43 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Harry Nevis - October 27, 2017 at 7:56 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Whateverist - October 27, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mister Agenda - October 27, 2017 at 10:33 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 27, 2017 at 3:25 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Harry Nevis - October 26, 2017 at 11:05 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by pocaracas - October 24, 2017 at 6:05 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 25, 2017 at 2:50 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 25, 2017 at 3:19 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by downbeatplumb - October 24, 2017 at 1:07 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mister Agenda - October 19, 2017 at 11:20 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 19, 2017 at 1:28 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Crossless2.0 - October 19, 2017 at 1:30 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 20, 2017 at 3:18 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 23, 2017 at 8:58 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 25, 2017 at 12:52 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 30, 2017 at 6:58 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 14, 2017 at 7:58 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 15, 2017 at 2:12 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Edwardo Piet - October 13, 2017 at 11:08 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 11:11 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Amarok - October 14, 2017 at 12:01 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 14, 2017 at 12:13 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Amarok - October 14, 2017 at 12:10 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 14, 2017 at 12:30 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 18, 2017 at 3:52 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 18, 2017 at 1:29 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 19, 2017 at 1:18 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 19, 2017 at 1:25 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 20, 2017 at 1:49 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 20, 2017 at 2:03 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 20, 2017 at 2:42 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 19, 2017 at 1:42 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 18, 2017 at 3:11 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 19, 2017 at 1:17 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Minimalist - October 19, 2017 at 1:37 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mister Agenda - October 20, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Valkyrie - October 23, 2017 at 11:04 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 25, 2017 at 2:58 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 25, 2017 at 3:16 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 25, 2017 at 3:28 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 27, 2017 at 3:46 pm

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