(October 23, 2017 at 5:29 pm)speedyj1992 Wrote: 1. [edit] But my experience with God (and what I've heard from others who have also come to faith) is that it's a process. [edit]
2. [edit] how the apostles proclaimed Jesus to their deaths,[edit]
1. If god actually exists why would it take a process? All it would take is an appearance, showing up, proof that it exists in reality. The fact that it does not and requires a "process" only indicates that god is a man made fantasy. Maybe a useful fantasy for some, but still a fantasy.
2. So did the believers in Heavens Gate. So have thousands of other martyrs (not just christian). Not much of a point. People die for delusional beliefs all of the time.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.