(October 14, 2017 at 8:56 am)Little Rik Wrote: Most atheists say..........well if God is real why then He doesn't show to us?
Before to make my comment I show you how Jesus put this question.
19. Unaided by the Spirit-breath, the work of intellection tends to solve the problems of the things we see, and nothing more.
20. The senses were ordained to bring into the mind mere pictures of the things that pass away; they do not deal with real things; they do not comprehend eternal law.
21. But man has something in his soul, a something that will tear the veil apart that he may see the world of real things.
22. We call this something, spirit consciousness; it sleeps in every soul, and cannot be awakened till the Holy Breath becomes a welcome guest.
23. This Holy Breath knocks at the door of every soul, but cannot enter in until the will of man throws wide the door.
24. There is no power in intellect to turn the key; philosophy and science both have toiled to get a glimpse behind the veil; but they have failed.
25. The secret spring that throws ajar the door of soul is touched by nothing else than purity in life, by prayer and holy thought.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/agjc/agjc047.htm
It say.........cannot enter in until the will of man throws wide the door.........
You see?
Is all about opening.
How someone who is not interested in this opening can perceive God.
Isn't it a catch 22 situation?
On one hand atheists would like to get evidence but at the same time they keep the door shut so how can God
enter?
I guess you guy never thought about it, did you?
(October 14, 2017 at 9:04 am)Brian37 Wrote: [quote='Little Rik' pid='1637786' dateline='1507985799']
Most atheists say..........well if God is real why then He doesn't show to us?
Before to make my comment I show you how Jesus put this question.
19. Unaided by the Spirit-breath, the work of intellection tends to solve the problems of the things we see, and nothing more.
20. The senses were ordained to bring into the mind mere pictures of the things that pass away; they do not deal with real things; they do not comprehend eternal law.
21. But man has something in his soul, a something that will tear the veil apart that he may see the world of real things.
22. We call this something, spirit consciousness; it sleeps in every soul, and cannot be awakened till the Holy Breath becomes a welcome guest.
23. This Holy Breath knocks at the door of every soul, but cannot enter in until the will of man throws wide the door.
24. There is no power in intellect to turn the key; philosophy and science both have toiled to get a glimpse behind the veil; but they have failed.
25. The secret spring that throws ajar the door of soul is touched by nothing else than purity in life, by prayer and holy thought.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/agjc/agjc047.htm
It say.........cannot enter in until the will of man throws wide the door.........
You see?
Is all about opening.
How someone who is not interested in this opening can perceive God.
Isn't it a catch 22 situation?
On one hand atheists would like to get evidence but at the same time they keep the door shut so how can God
enter?
I guess you guy never thought about it, did you?
We have read it though in multiple forms, a simpler way of saying it is 'You cannot believe until you believe enough to let belief in' which is nonsense, and can of course apply to any religion, dogma, fantasy, Harry Potter book or any conspiracy theory.
Normally people ask for evidence that once a leap of faith is taken then there will be clear evidence that what you have been promised is actually delivered, i mean other than believing it !
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'