(October 23, 2017 at 7:43 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: What is the process I should use in order to 'know' that your god exists?Because the knowledge is constantly being attacked inwardly and outwardly, so despite having that knowledge which you do and will never prove you don't, to me or to yourself, it takes power from love of God to testify to him and do away with the shadows.
If I 'know' that god exists, why do I need faith? I don't use faith for any of my other beliefs. I rely on evidence and valid/sound logic for those. That is the only way I can claim to know things, to be convinced they are true by the availability of evidence and logic to support them.
And who more capable of causing us to reflect properly so we know him than God himself. Yes there is no reason to assume Quran has that reflection and not any other holy book from both being religion, but never the less, if enough people talk about the wall of China, it becomes reasonable to think it probably most likely exists.
The problem right now there aren't enough people showing proper reflection on Quran, so it lacks in that regard, and humans have failed it in that regard. But I am testifying to it's ability to guide you to the proper means of reflecting, curing you of the irrational doubts you are in, and giving you clarity.
You can either take it from me or not. I am saying as well, that althought I try to present some of it's arguments, God is the best of guides and the guide he appoints are more worthy to be paid attention to.
In other words, I am telling you to stop relying on me, and begin to look for a reliable handhold and rope from God. If you search all your life for that handhold but don't find it, I am sure God will not punish you.
But apathy to God, the Beloved of all beloveds, the one who deserves the most love from us and most value and respect, requires you at least search. I believe if you search you will find.
I am not going to tell you how to reflect over God's book, we all have our own talents, and everything clicks differently given different minds. But I believe God put all cures in that and has through the family of that reminder, brought forth its cures through clear elaboration.
Quote:If a god exists, I want to know it.
Good, act on that desire, and see where it will lead you.
Waiting for people like me who are insane (mentally I am insane) and barely know themselves let alone where you are at and how you think, is not reliable. That is why I am saying your best bet is to find a firm handhold and rope from God, and search what truly is his guidance on earth. If none exists, if God doesn't exist, well than atleast you did your best and if he exists, he won't fault you for that. But apathy as an excuse won't be very valid given that God is defined to be the being we should least apathetic towards knowing and searching and finding.
