(October 24, 2017 at 6:41 am)Cyberman Wrote:(October 23, 2017 at 10:04 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: An argument just has to prove something to be true to be a good argument. Any other standards we make are arbitrary.
Well, that's convenient for us. By that standard, zero god arguments are good ones. They all reduce to "if [insert god here] doesn't exist, this argument doesn't work. Therefore it must exist".
Put another way, there are no arguments for the existence of gods; only arguments trying to prove that the arguments work.
To wit: just look at the dismal trajectory of recent Christian apologetics. The game now is to develop a ‘cumulative’ case for God’s existence or, even more minimally, to argue that god belief isn’t irrational in its face.
Poor MK is trying to assert the reasonableness of centuries-old horseshit with 19th Century apologists’ tools — tools that came to be seen as passé a long time ago. He should tear a page out of the Protestant playbook and set his sights much lower. Allah may not approve, but Jesus would understand.