RE: Thoughts on Hell?
October 25, 2017 at 1:55 pm
(This post was last modified: October 25, 2017 at 2:03 pm by Godscreated.)
(October 23, 2017 at 10:47 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote:(October 23, 2017 at 10:20 pm)Godscreated Wrote: I most certainly do, just because you've never met Him doesn't mean He doesn't exist, scientist said that the coelacanth did exist any longer and yet it proved them wrong. Not only that they had been told be fisherman that they were catching from time to time, ignorant scientist wouldn't even check it out, just like the atheist here want check out the God of the Bible. You're right, "wanting something not to exist doesn't make it true. God is there and no matter how hard you try to dismiss Him He is still there.
GC
Is the part in bold a statement of conclusive knowledge, proof, and evidence? Out of curiosity, if your statement is not solely based on conclusive evidence/knowledge/proof, then are you open to the possibility that the statement in bold may not be in strict accordance with fact? Thanks
First I re-read my post and saw I was surely half asleep with all the wrong words in it, sorry. Yes I have the evidence, actually proof of God's existence through my relationship with Him. This proof can only come from God to those who devote themselves to Him. He promises to reveal Himself once we have accepted Jesus as our savior and Lord, the bold word here is very important in coming to knowledge of God. New and immature Christians do not seek God's promise because they either do not know to or are to lazy to serve Him as Lord, they live a life in faith and possibly belief but without the promised knowledge. I have this knowledge because I desired it and God responded in giving me what I needed, asking with a sincere heart will bring results in God's timing. Patients is a real need and virtue for Christians, we as people can be very impatient especially in this day and time. God working outside of time, that is being omnipresent will deliver when He knows it is the right time. So, yes it is through fact that I have knowledge God is real but for the non-believer what I have isn't possible for them until they commit to Jesus as savior and Lord, and as I stated there are many Christians that do not have this promised knowledge. Thanks for you polite response that you always bring to a conversation.
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(October 23, 2017 at 11:50 pm)Astreja Wrote:(October 23, 2017 at 11:44 pm)Godscreated Wrote: I wouldn't call it abuse as you do, I believe they are sincerely afraid for their child's eternal destination and they do not trust God to help them with the child.I see it as one of the worst kinds of non-physical abuse. The fear that it creates in the body deranges the endocrine system and can have lifelong consequences.
There is a fine line between abuse and concern. I'm not saying that some parents don't cross that line but I do believe that most do not. I have seen cases where the children themselves multiply the fear within themselves and the parents coming to them to reassure them that things are alright using Bible studies to do so.
Quote:...I think you and I both know how cruel children can be at times and they usually regret it later. You should have confronted her parents about the situation so they could have disciplined her.
Asterja Wrote:I am not a helicopter parent. My daughter is perfectly capable of deciding who her friends are.
Are you saying you are one of those who lets their unknowlegeable child grow up on their own?
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.