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Thoughts on Hell?
RE: Thoughts on Hell?
(October 25, 2017 at 1:55 pm)Godscreated Wrote: There is a fine line between abuse and concern. I'm not saying that some parents don't cross that line but I do believe that most do not. I have seen cases where the children themselves multiply the fear within themselves and the parents coming to them to reassure them that things are alright using Bible studies to do so.
The risk of harming a child's psyche with the hell myth is just too great to risk it.  One child crying in terror in the night is one child too many.  I believe that it should be a felony to psychologically abuse minors with such things, and that only adults should be exposed to such horrible ideas.

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Astreja Wrote:I am not a helicopter parent.  My daughter is perfectly capable of deciding who her friends are.

 Are you saying you are one of those who lets their unknowlegeable child grow up on their own?

I can't even begin to fathom how you drew such an absurd conclusion from my statement.  The term 'helicopter parent' refers to overprotective parents who insinuate themselves into every aspect of a child's life, even when the child is already competent in that area.

My ex was a helicopter parent who tried to force my daughter into activities she clearly did not want to do, and she came to hate him and those activities.  My approach worked much better:  I facilitated things that she did want to do (for example, permitting her to enroll at a high school that had a particular course she wanted to take) and letting her work uninterrupted.  Today she's self-employed in the arts with a positive net worth, investments and no debt, so obviously my approach was good for something.
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Thoughts on Hell? - by SisterAgatha - October 11, 2017 at 9:13 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 11, 2017 at 9:23 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Neo-Scholastic - October 11, 2017 at 9:36 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Angrboda - October 11, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by brewer - October 11, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2017 at 12:18 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Brian37 - October 11, 2017 at 9:41 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 11, 2017 at 9:54 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 11, 2017 at 12:31 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 11, 2017 at 10:01 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 13, 2017 at 3:40 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Industrial Atheist - October 13, 2017 at 4:28 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 13, 2017 at 10:40 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 14, 2017 at 12:08 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Industrial Atheist - October 15, 2017 at 12:38 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 17, 2017 at 4:41 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by pocaracas - October 17, 2017 at 5:03 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 18, 2017 at 3:40 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 18, 2017 at 4:53 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by pocaracas - October 18, 2017 at 5:27 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 18, 2017 at 11:15 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Foxaèr - October 17, 2017 at 11:01 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 17, 2017 at 11:16 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LastPoet - October 17, 2017 at 1:27 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by downbeatplumb - October 17, 2017 at 1:18 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 18, 2017 at 3:54 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Joods - October 18, 2017 at 4:53 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 18, 2017 at 8:00 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Joods - October 18, 2017 at 9:51 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 18, 2017 at 4:56 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mister Agenda - October 18, 2017 at 12:56 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 13, 2017 at 4:41 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 13, 2017 at 11:01 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Foxaèr - October 13, 2017 at 11:03 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 14, 2017 at 2:38 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 13, 2017 at 8:57 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 13, 2017 at 11:08 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 13, 2017 at 11:56 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by downbeatplumb - October 14, 2017 at 7:33 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Harry Nevis - October 18, 2017 at 3:07 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by downbeatplumb - October 11, 2017 at 10:03 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by vorlon13 - October 11, 2017 at 10:07 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Chad32 - October 11, 2017 at 10:10 am
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 11, 2017 at 10:25 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Little Rik - October 11, 2017 at 10:39 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Brian37 - October 11, 2017 at 11:01 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Little Rik - October 11, 2017 at 11:14 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Brian37 - October 11, 2017 at 1:32 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Little Rik - October 12, 2017 at 11:12 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Brian37 - October 12, 2017 at 11:50 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Chad32 - October 11, 2017 at 11:09 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2017 at 12:59 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Little lunch - October 11, 2017 at 10:54 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Industrial Atheist - October 11, 2017 at 11:13 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Chad32 - October 11, 2017 at 11:15 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 11, 2017 at 11:21 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Brian37 - October 11, 2017 at 11:28 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Chad32 - October 11, 2017 at 12:09 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Whateverist - October 11, 2017 at 12:22 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2017 at 12:25 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by pocaracas - October 11, 2017 at 12:34 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Whateverist - October 11, 2017 at 12:43 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Nay_Sayer - October 11, 2017 at 12:38 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by SisterAgatha - October 11, 2017 at 12:46 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Whateverist - October 11, 2017 at 1:15 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by brewer - October 11, 2017 at 9:44 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 11, 2017 at 12:48 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2017 at 12:48 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 11, 2017 at 12:59 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by SisterAgatha - October 11, 2017 at 12:58 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 11, 2017 at 1:01 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by pocaracas - October 11, 2017 at 1:38 pm
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2017 at 9:54 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 11, 2017 at 1:00 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by SisterAgatha - October 11, 2017 at 1:02 pm
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 11, 2017 at 1:13 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Chad32 - October 11, 2017 at 1:18 pm
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by LadyForCamus - October 11, 2017 at 1:49 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by KevinM1 - October 11, 2017 at 5:30 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 12, 2017 at 11:31 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Minimalist - October 12, 2017 at 11:35 am
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Minimalist - October 12, 2017 at 12:12 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 12, 2017 at 8:40 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Whateverist - October 12, 2017 at 9:16 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Joods - October 12, 2017 at 8:44 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Thumpalumpacus - October 12, 2017 at 9:15 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 13, 2017 at 9:01 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Brian37 - October 13, 2017 at 9:59 am
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 13, 2017 at 12:50 pm
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Harry Nevis - October 18, 2017 at 3:12 pm
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by I_am_not_mafia - October 13, 2017 at 10:34 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Brian37 - October 13, 2017 at 11:00 am
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 13, 2017 at 11:09 am
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 13, 2017 at 4:00 pm
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 20, 2017 at 2:18 am
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 23, 2017 at 10:20 pm
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Whateverist - October 23, 2017 at 10:52 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 25, 2017 at 1:55 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 25, 2017 at 3:07 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mister Agenda - October 25, 2017 at 4:28 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 25, 2017 at 6:55 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 26, 2017 at 7:08 pm
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RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 28, 2017 at 12:19 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 28, 2017 at 12:53 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 28, 2017 at 1:12 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 28, 2017 at 1:43 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Harry Nevis - October 27, 2017 at 7:56 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Whateverist - October 27, 2017 at 9:40 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mister Agenda - October 27, 2017 at 10:33 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 27, 2017 at 3:25 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Harry Nevis - October 26, 2017 at 11:05 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by pocaracas - October 24, 2017 at 6:05 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 25, 2017 at 2:50 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 25, 2017 at 3:19 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by downbeatplumb - October 24, 2017 at 1:07 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mister Agenda - October 19, 2017 at 11:20 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 19, 2017 at 1:28 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Crossless2.0 - October 19, 2017 at 1:30 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 20, 2017 at 3:18 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 23, 2017 at 8:58 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 25, 2017 at 12:52 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mr.Obvious - October 30, 2017 at 6:58 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 14, 2017 at 7:58 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Huggy Bear - October 15, 2017 at 2:12 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Edwardo Piet - October 13, 2017 at 11:08 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 11:11 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Amarok - October 14, 2017 at 12:01 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 14, 2017 at 12:13 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Amarok - October 14, 2017 at 12:10 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Grand Nudger - October 14, 2017 at 12:30 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 18, 2017 at 3:52 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 18, 2017 at 1:29 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 19, 2017 at 1:18 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 19, 2017 at 1:25 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Godscreated - October 20, 2017 at 1:49 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 20, 2017 at 2:03 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 20, 2017 at 2:42 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Astreja - October 19, 2017 at 1:42 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 18, 2017 at 3:11 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Wyrd of Gawd - October 19, 2017 at 1:17 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Minimalist - October 19, 2017 at 1:37 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Mister Agenda - October 20, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by The Valkyrie - October 23, 2017 at 11:04 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 25, 2017 at 2:58 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by Cyberman - October 25, 2017 at 3:16 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 25, 2017 at 3:28 pm
RE: Thoughts on Hell? - by JackRussell - October 27, 2017 at 3:46 pm

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