The atheists catch 22 situation.

[Aroura]

I don't know about most.  I suppose that may happen frequently if we look at discussions on the matter of the existence of God that involve both believers and disbelievers.

I suspect that you may be overestimating the importance of "knowing for sure" among us atheists.


I actually did.  But it is not something that takes any sleep from me.  I am an apatheist.

Actually APATHEISTS these days are the majority.
They are not real atheists because a real atheist keep a firm belief in his-her mind that God does not exist.

Apatheists on the other hand wouldn't care less whether God exist or not although they may think that God does not exist.

When I go in the shopping center I can feel that most of the people main attraction is pure materialism.
In their mind there is no place for any mystic God.
Their God are the material things.
My guess is that these days 90% of people are Apatheists.  

Little Rik:
Pulling bullshit definitions out of his ass since 2013!

Look, I know you;ve heard this before, so I don't really expect it to penetrate, but I'll try.  Atheist just means to lack belief in God. No to hold any firm positive belief, though some also do that.


You are describing strong and weak atheism, but it's all still atheism.  Lack in God for any reason at all?  That's not apathy, that is atheism.

Now there are whole other spectrums of belief and behavior that theists often conflate.  The spiritual, the supernatural, religiosity, etc.  People can believe in supernatural, be non materialistic, and still be an atheist.