Still a Christian - ask me questions/tell me about yourselves

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

The argument in response is that 1) God did show up, and revealed Himself to many people over many years.

 

As did Zeus, the Dagda, Vishnu, and countless others.  Revelatory claims made by believers don't really qualify as evidence.  My mum had an uncle who was firmly convinced that he saw faeries in his garden - this is not evidence for faeries (it is, however, evidence that great uncle Billy was as crazy as a bedbug).

  He is not obligated to us because we have forsaken Him and often continue to do so.

 

But if God wishes all to come to salvation (it says so in the Bible), then how is he not obligated?

Plus, you can't know an infinite God all at once when you're finite. That process needs to be there. 

Ok, then.  How many visitations by an infinite God are necessary for a finite being to 'know' that God (think carefully before you answer)?

2) The difference is you're talking about people who came after the apostles.

 

Are you contending that no post-apostolic person can have an inkling what God is about (again, think it over.  The question isn't as simple as it seems)? 

The apostles themselves didn't have to die for Jesus' name's sake, in theory, except that they clearly really believed the things they preached because they knew the man. Why would they die for something they didn't believe in?

Sincerity doesn't enter into it.  People can die for fervent belief in a false idea just as much as for a true one.  The apostles' martyrdom says nothing at all about the truth or falsity of what they died for.

Boru