RE: Still a Christian - ask me questions/tell me about yourselves
November 3, 2017 at 9:25 am
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2017 at 9:28 am by Rev. Rye.)
(November 3, 2017 at 9:07 am)pocaracas Wrote:Correct. Otherwise, it's misinformation or delusion, or a whole mess of other terms, but if they honestly believe in a demonstrably wrong thing, it doesn't count as a lie.(November 3, 2017 at 9:00 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: To me, a lie has a specific meaning: it requires the person in question knows what they're saying is false and acting like it's true anyway.
You think you can demonstrate Mohammed Atta and pals didn't believe in Islam, but decided to die for it anyway?
That's why I used the Bando Mitsugoro example. To paraphrase an Internet reviewer I follow, what he was doing was wrong, he had to know it was wrong, but he did it anyway.
So you'd say that a statement can be true, not true, or a lie?
The difference between the not true and the lie statements is intent of deception?
The OED defines a lie as "an intentionally false statement." Call me old-fashioned, but I tend to defer to Oxford when it comes to words with ambiguous connotations.
Comparing the Universal Oneness of All Life to Yo Mama since 2010.
I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.
I was born with the gift of laughter and a sense the world is mad.