RE: Enlightened rants...
November 5, 2017 at 1:29 pm
(This post was last modified: November 5, 2017 at 1:31 pm by Mystic.)
(November 5, 2017 at 11:59 am)Khemikal Wrote: Your "enlightenment" would probably be more useful among them, than among us...don't you think?
I don't think so.
كَيْفَ يَهْدِي اللَّهُ قَوْمًا كَفَرُوا بَعْدَ إِيمَانِهِمْ وَشَهِدُوا أَنَّ الرَّسُولَ حَقٌّ وَجَاءَهُمُ الْبَيِّنَاتُ ۚ وَاللَّهُ لَا يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ {86}
[Shakir 3:86] How shall Allah guide a people who disbelieved after their believing and (after) they had borne witness that the Messenger was true and clear arguments had come to them; and Allah does not guide the unjust people.
They are far gone beyond repair. They testify to Quran yet turn away from its guidance. They talk about Sunnah, but do not care if they mixed falsehood with the true interpretation of the Prophet and mixed the beautiful Sunnah with ugly falsehood and lies with no fear of God in doing so.
They have no objectivity to only say regarding God the truth and think God has allowed them to attribute him and his religion all sorts of falsehood.
They mix leadership of disgusting souls with the leadership that God has taken himself to guide humanity through, an authority that belongs to him, and is to be manifested by him.
كَانَ النَّاسُ أُمَّةً وَاحِدَةً فَبَعَثَ اللَّهُ النَّبِيِّينَ مُبَشِّرِينَ وَمُنْذِرِينَ وَأَنْزَلَ مَعَهُمُ الْكِتَابَ بِالْحَقِّ لِيَحْكُمَ بَيْنَ النَّاسِ فِيمَا اخْتَلَفُوا فِيهِ ۚ وَمَا اخْتَلَفَ فِيهِ إِلَّا الَّذِينَ أُوتُوهُ مِنْ بَعْدِ مَا جَاءَتْهُمُ الْبَيِّنَاتُ بَغْيًا بَيْنَهُمْ ۖ فَهَدَى اللَّهُ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لِمَا اخْتَلَفُوا فِيهِ مِنَ الْحَقِّ بِإِذْنِهِ ۗ وَاللَّهُ يَهْدِي مَنْ يَشَاءُ إِلَىٰ صِرَاطٍ مُسْتَقِيمٍ {213}
[Shakir 2:213] (All) people are a single nation; so Allah raised prophets as bearers of good news and as warners, and He revealed with them the Book with truth, that it might judge between people in that in which they differed; and none but the very people who were given it differed about it after clear arguments had come to them, revolting among themselves; so Allah has guided by His will those who believe to the truth about which they differed and Allah guides whom He pleases to the right path.
You guys actually believe in verifying with proofs in theory and only follow things with reason in theory.
I said this before on facebook:
Reason without revelation will not reach its full potential but it is much better than interpreting revelation without reasoning properly.
(November 5, 2017 at 12:28 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:(November 5, 2017 at 10:02 am)MysticKnight Wrote: Valuing things with the proper value they are due is true love. That is the definition of justice as well. Justice is giving everything it's proper due. That is why Quran when it talks about loving non-Muslims, says it's only those who fight us for the sake of our religion that we are forbidden to love and says as, for the rest, God has not forbidden us to do justice to them, meaning it is an act of justice to love them.
I told you to stop it with the "value" stuff.
Its starting to get a little irritating.
I won't stop. You probably find it irritating because it is constantly reminding you of a vision you rely on that proves God.