RE: Civil war began in Saudi Arabia.
November 19, 2017 at 9:33 pm
(This post was last modified: November 19, 2017 at 10:03 pm by WinterHold.)
(November 19, 2017 at 12:36 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: It's seems almost perverse, and maybe Hari Seldon could explain it, but I'm almost convinced the US could be flipping a coin and deciding on that basis which side to back in the various clusterfucks around the world, and I'd bet we would still be on the WRONG side EVERY time.
Supporting any side in this conflict is just wrong. I think Trump is going in for the cash; just like he said in his campaign.
(November 19, 2017 at 2:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote: There has to be a middle ground between isolationism and putting a company of marines into every third-world shithole, Brian. They have far more shitholes than we have marines.
Would it be the worst thing I wonder to let them sort this shit out among themselves. As you point out, we have a pretty sorry track record and it won't be long until Iraq descends into Sunni-Shi'a civil war again. Both sides are out of ammo right now. "Ceasefire" is arabic for "time to reload."
Isolationism with respecting the human rights of other is what our world needs. Arabs are not animals but they didn't see what the west saw. I'm speaking about world wars and similar events.
Compare Turkey to Arabia: so many differences can be spotted just because Turkey saw the shock of the great war. Arabs were distant somehow; the great war is rarely discusses here. They need such shock even though it's a harsh, harsh thing.
And for that to happen; you need to leave them alone. They'll grow up.
For every place America intervened, the place turned to shit. Look at Iraq.
(November 19, 2017 at 9:29 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: I also point Canada is in a particularly bad position as we sell weapons to the Saudi's weapons probably be used in said war . The Liberal government has some serious soul searching to do .
The Saudi army is pulverizing Yemen now using weapons purchased from Western countries.
Just like the Myanmar army.
(November 19, 2017 at 9:33 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Warning: This won't be a popular post.
To be honesty, I think the whole region needs to have a single, large, all encompassing war to sort out the racial, ethnic, religious, tribal divides. And it should happen without the interference of outside agencies, apart from providing humanitarian assistance.
It sounds cruel, I know, but the region has basically been at war for several thousand years. both dues to internal differences and external intervention/invasion. If it weren't for the oil, most of us wouldn't give a fuck what was happening in the region.
Exactly, like slapping a hysterical person to come back . It's always two local factions ready to kill each other due to idiotic differences; and a supplier of weapons and support from the outside to use the internal conflict to gain interest.
Shock the natives with an event; and you'll change their mentalities for good. Arabs are lost; their compass is quite messed up.