RE: Messin' With Atheists
November 21, 2017 at 6:01 pm
(This post was last modified: November 21, 2017 at 6:06 pm by Simon Moon.)
(November 21, 2017 at 5:13 pm)Haipule Wrote:(November 21, 2017 at 3:07 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: I can't speak to what Face2face was referring to, but Isaiah 45:7 does refer to the Yahweh character claiming to have created evil. And since evil acts often times lead to the murder and death of humans, the connection can be made.Yes, and God told King Saul to kill them all, men, women, children and animals. Saul disobeyed God and lost his life. And the throne of Judah and Israel was given to David who "Killed his tens of thousands".
But the thing is, there are plenty of other Bible passages where the Yahweh character does specifically order the mass murder of entire towns, so, there is that.
Deuteronomy 13:13-19 says to slaughter an entire town if one person in it worships another god.
Deuteronomy 13:7-12 says to kill your own family if they worship other gods.
Ezekiel 9:5-7 says to kill anyone in a town, men, women and children, if their forehead is not marked.
And those are just a small sample of murder ordered by Yahweh.
I can't imagine a worse universe, than one where this evil being actually existed. Too bad there are so many people on this planet who actually believe he does exist, and believe he is good.
The OT can be brutal. But with out Deuteronomy, I would have no clue how to handle my two wives
Your confusing killing and "murder".
If people are ordered to kill other people just for believing in the wrong god, that is murder. There, I figured out the difference.
Saul was disobeying an immoral order.
Quote:That "god-in-the-box", with is contents, dielectric and electric materials, gold cover, cherub wings and raised platform, was a super capacitor of immense power. I would've suggested not to touch it as well.
Someone has been watching a few too many 'ancient alien' shows...
But even if that is true, your omnipotent god could not come up with way to protect his 'chosen people' from shock from a charged capacitor? We humans have no problem with that task, why did god?
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
