(August 18, 2011 at 11:28 pm)C Rod Wrote: Its final in that all people must die.Again this is wrong. Most deaths even if sudden are a process not an event. Take someone who is brain dead, they normally subject to a battery of 20 tests before they are formally pronounced dead. But most people accept that if successfully diagnosed brain death is or invariably leads to death. So we do not know the exact moment of death, in all cases. Someone who is say instantly vaporized at 11:26:34 on July 15th, will be dead at that time.
I stand trying to understand the actual moment of death to me. As either a mystery or we know what the exact moment is. Thats it we do or we dont, which is it?
(August 18, 2011 at 11:28 pm)C Rod Wrote: What do you mean by souls?The idea of a soul is also inconsistent with reality, but xtians normally define it as the immaterial self, whatever that is. And of course xtians must believe in souls because the physical Jesus died, and for their own salvation. No soul, no xtianity it's that simple.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.