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A rational explanation for hell?
RE: A rational explanation for hell?
(August 18, 2011 at 11:28 pm)C Rod Wrote: Its final in that all people must die.
I stand trying to understand the actual moment of death to me. As either a mystery or we know what the exact moment is. Thats it we do or we dont, which is it?
Again this is wrong. Most deaths even if sudden are a process not an event. Take someone who is brain dead, they normally subject to a battery of 20 tests before they are formally pronounced dead. But most people accept that if successfully diagnosed brain death is or invariably leads to death. So we do not know the exact moment of death, in all cases. Someone who is say instantly vaporized at 11:26:34 on July 15th, will be dead at that time.

(August 18, 2011 at 11:28 pm)C Rod Wrote: What do you mean by souls?
The idea of a soul is also inconsistent with reality, but xtians normally define it as the immaterial self, whatever that is. And of course xtians must believe in souls because the physical Jesus died, and for their own salvation. No soul, no xtianity it's that simple.
"I still say a church steeple with a lightning rod on top shows a lack of confidence"...Doug McLeod.
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A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 9:23 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 15, 2010 at 9:28 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by theophilus - September 15, 2010 at 1:03 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Zen Badger - September 15, 2010 at 9:31 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 19, 2011 at 11:25 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by DeistPaladin - September 15, 2010 at 9:34 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 9:37 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 19, 2011 at 10:40 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Darwinian - July 20, 2011 at 5:11 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 20, 2011 at 7:37 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Darwinian - July 20, 2011 at 7:48 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 20, 2011 at 8:20 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 21, 2011 at 4:25 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by lrh9 - September 15, 2010 at 9:44 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 9:55 am
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RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 10:05 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by lrh9 - September 15, 2010 at 10:22 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 11:06 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by chatpilot - September 15, 2010 at 10:01 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Watson - September 15, 2010 at 12:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 12:31 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Godschild - September 17, 2010 at 12:55 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 17, 2010 at 4:56 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 12:39 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 15, 2010 at 1:17 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - September 15, 2010 at 1:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 1:29 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 15, 2010 at 2:21 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 19, 2011 at 11:10 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - September 16, 2010 at 6:43 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 3:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 15, 2010 at 3:44 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 15, 2010 at 6:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by chasm - September 15, 2010 at 6:08 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by theVOID - September 15, 2010 at 6:20 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by HeyItsZeus - September 15, 2010 at 8:19 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Entropist - September 15, 2010 at 8:13 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 19, 2011 at 11:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 20, 2011 at 5:52 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by anonymous108 - January 24, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 8:47 pm
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RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 8:09 pm
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RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 16, 2010 at 4:10 am
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RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Entropist - September 15, 2010 at 9:01 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 15, 2010 at 10:48 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Entropist - September 15, 2010 at 11:30 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by krazedkat - September 15, 2010 at 11:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 16, 2010 at 1:30 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Welsh cake - September 16, 2010 at 5:55 am
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RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 16, 2010 at 7:09 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 16, 2010 at 9:51 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 16, 2010 at 10:07 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 16, 2010 at 10:46 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by tackattack - September 17, 2010 at 11:52 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Welsh cake - September 17, 2010 at 3:02 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 1:38 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 20, 2010 at 8:48 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 20, 2010 at 4:28 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 4:56 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 20, 2010 at 5:35 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Rayaan - September 20, 2010 at 5:42 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 5:48 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 20, 2010 at 5:59 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Entropist - September 20, 2010 at 8:54 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by blood_pardon - September 20, 2010 at 7:23 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Skipper - September 20, 2010 at 7:27 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Soyouz - September 20, 2010 at 2:23 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - September 20, 2010 at 2:56 pm
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RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Anomalocaris - September 27, 2010 at 5:12 am
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RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - September 27, 2010 at 6:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 19, 2011 at 11:05 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Kayenneh - July 20, 2011 at 3:56 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Welsh cake - July 20, 2011 at 7:40 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 20, 2011 at 8:06 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Darwinian - July 20, 2011 at 8:17 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 20, 2011 at 8:26 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 20, 2011 at 8:41 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Mad Militant - July 20, 2011 at 9:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 20, 2011 at 9:17 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Mad Militant - July 20, 2011 at 9:48 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 21, 2011 at 6:20 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Autumnlicious - July 20, 2011 at 7:59 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Mad Militant - July 20, 2011 at 8:16 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 20, 2011 at 9:25 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 24, 2011 at 6:39 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 20, 2011 at 10:56 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 21, 2011 at 3:30 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by CharlieMilles - July 21, 2011 at 4:44 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Autumnlicious - July 21, 2011 at 2:43 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by BethK - July 21, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 21, 2011 at 5:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Welsh cake - July 22, 2011 at 5:35 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 22, 2011 at 12:43 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 22, 2011 at 1:08 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 22, 2011 at 1:28 pm
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RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by BethK - July 24, 2011 at 12:12 am
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RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by DeistPaladin - July 25, 2011 at 8:29 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 25, 2011 at 7:39 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by DeistPaladin - July 25, 2011 at 8:56 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Kayenneh - July 24, 2011 at 1:19 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 24, 2011 at 9:35 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Judas BentHer - July 24, 2011 at 10:41 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 25, 2011 at 8:58 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Godschild - July 25, 2011 at 1:15 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by DeistPaladin - July 25, 2011 at 1:23 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 25, 2011 at 1:36 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 25, 2011 at 2:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 25, 2011 at 2:10 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 26, 2011 at 1:16 pm
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RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 25, 2011 at 10:52 pm
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RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 28, 2011 at 1:33 pm
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RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 28, 2011 at 3:34 pm
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RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by edk - July 29, 2011 at 1:47 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 29, 2011 at 6:27 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 26, 2011 at 9:35 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Godschild - July 27, 2011 at 1:26 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 26, 2011 at 2:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 26, 2011 at 8:57 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 28, 2011 at 9:12 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 28, 2011 at 9:06 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 28, 2011 at 4:02 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - July 28, 2011 at 4:14 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 31, 2011 at 4:07 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 31, 2011 at 4:35 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - August 1, 2011 at 3:30 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Cinjin - August 1, 2011 at 3:48 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by edk - July 29, 2011 at 2:42 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - August 14, 2011 at 1:26 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 31, 2011 at 4:23 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 31, 2011 at 6:50 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 31, 2011 at 7:24 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 31, 2011 at 7:26 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - July 31, 2011 at 11:07 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - July 31, 2011 at 8:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - July 31, 2011 at 8:58 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by edk - July 31, 2011 at 10:17 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - July 31, 2011 at 11:15 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 2, 2011 at 7:08 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 3, 2011 at 12:52 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 12, 2011 at 8:41 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 12, 2011 at 11:50 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Cinjin - August 12, 2011 at 11:58 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 13, 2011 at 12:01 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 14, 2011 at 9:13 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 15, 2011 at 1:01 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Jackalope - August 15, 2011 at 5:41 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 17, 2011 at 10:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Jackalope - August 18, 2011 at 1:48 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Ace Otana - August 1, 2011 at 4:01 am
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RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2011 at 10:09 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 1, 2011 at 10:44 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 2, 2011 at 7:59 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2011 at 9:53 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 14, 2011 at 10:38 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 14, 2011 at 11:21 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by padraic - August 15, 2011 at 1:16 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by KichigaiNeko - August 15, 2011 at 6:24 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2011 at 8:40 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by KichigaiNeko - August 15, 2011 at 8:45 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Welsh cake - August 15, 2011 at 1:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - August 15, 2011 at 2:34 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 17, 2011 at 10:06 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 15, 2011 at 10:32 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Jackalope - August 16, 2011 at 3:43 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 10:13 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 10:44 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 17, 2011 at 10:52 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 10:59 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 17, 2011 at 11:03 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 12:03 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - August 18, 2011 at 1:05 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 11:47 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 8:11 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - August 18, 2011 at 12:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 12:13 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - August 18, 2011 at 12:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 12:33 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 8:29 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 9:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 9:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 9:18 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by BethK - August 18, 2011 at 9:29 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 9:09 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 9:19 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 9:31 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 9:38 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 9:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 18, 2011 at 9:53 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 10:36 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 18, 2011 at 11:00 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 11:28 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Faith No More - August 18, 2011 at 11:51 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 19, 2011 at 7:30 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 19, 2011 at 1:39 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - August 19, 2011 at 5:11 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 10:39 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 10:46 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 10:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 18, 2011 at 11:02 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 18, 2011 at 11:16 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 8:49 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Jackalope - August 19, 2011 at 1:41 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 19, 2011 at 7:46 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Captain Scarlet - August 19, 2011 at 9:38 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 7:44 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 19, 2011 at 7:54 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 20, 2011 at 12:12 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 20, 2011 at 12:58 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 20, 2011 at 1:11 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 21, 2011 at 5:48 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 21, 2011 at 12:12 am
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by The Grand Nudger - August 21, 2011 at 6:26 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 21, 2011 at 6:53 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 21, 2011 at 11:27 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by C Rod - August 22, 2011 at 7:46 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Epimethean - August 22, 2011 at 8:51 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Darkstar - January 24, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Cinjin - January 24, 2014 at 4:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Minimalist - January 24, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: A rational explanation for hell? - by Mudhammam - January 26, 2014 at 9:08 am

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