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Christianity a scam?
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RE: Christianity a scam?
(December 13, 2017 at 11:02 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:
(December 13, 2017 at 4:16 pm)SteveII Wrote: You and Gentleman Bastard missed CL's point entirely. The disciples would have gone to their death knowing of their fraud. Heaven's Gates and Muslims do not know of any fraud. Apples and oranges.

If anyone's missing a point, it's you, so I'll spell it out for you. Just because people die for a belief doesn't make it true. Your position carries the additional burden of first proving the disciples even existed.

No. We aren't saying bc they died for it that it happened. We are saying bc they died for it they obviously didn't think it was a hoax that they were supposedly part of.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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Christianity a scam? - by Dnte - December 12, 2017 at 12:11 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by brewer - December 12, 2017 at 12:20 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by vulcanlogician - December 12, 2017 at 12:24 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Dnte - December 12, 2017 at 12:22 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 12, 2017 at 1:44 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Godscreated - December 12, 2017 at 1:50 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by possibletarian - December 12, 2017 at 4:34 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Aoi Magi - December 12, 2017 at 4:55 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Mister Agenda - December 12, 2017 at 10:44 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Godscreated - December 13, 2017 at 1:49 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Mister Agenda - December 13, 2017 at 11:37 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Godscreated - December 14, 2017 at 12:35 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Mister Agenda - December 14, 2017 at 10:47 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Bow Before Zeus - December 12, 2017 at 5:09 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by possibletarian - December 12, 2017 at 5:42 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Bow Before Zeus - December 12, 2017 at 6:01 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Brian37 - December 12, 2017 at 8:42 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Drich - December 12, 2017 at 10:40 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 12, 2017 at 12:45 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Fake Messiah - December 13, 2017 at 12:59 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by chimp3 - December 13, 2017 at 1:08 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 13, 2017 at 1:10 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Catholic_Lady - December 13, 2017 at 11:22 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by brewer - December 13, 2017 at 3:24 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 13, 2017 at 4:16 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Catholic_Lady - December 13, 2017 at 5:50 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by brewer - December 13, 2017 at 8:20 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Catholic_Lady - December 13, 2017 at 8:27 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 13, 2017 at 10:55 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Ravenshire - December 13, 2017 at 11:02 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Catholic_Lady - December 13, 2017 at 11:11 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Succubus - December 13, 2017 at 11:32 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by vorlon13 - December 14, 2017 at 8:32 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Ravenshire - December 14, 2017 at 12:54 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Godscreated - December 14, 2017 at 2:36 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Fake Messiah - December 14, 2017 at 2:39 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Godscreated - December 14, 2017 at 2:52 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Fake Messiah - December 14, 2017 at 3:36 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Ravenshire - December 14, 2017 at 10:51 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Godscreated - December 15, 2017 at 3:15 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Ravenshire - December 13, 2017 at 4:06 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Succubus - December 13, 2017 at 10:45 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by NuclearEnergy - December 13, 2017 at 1:23 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 13, 2017 at 1:37 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Catholic_Lady - December 13, 2017 at 2:12 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by downbeatplumb - December 15, 2017 at 11:56 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by John V - December 13, 2017 at 4:23 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Angrboda - December 13, 2017 at 4:52 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by John V - December 13, 2017 at 5:08 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Mister Agenda - December 13, 2017 at 6:11 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 13, 2017 at 9:37 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 13, 2017 at 11:56 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by possibletarian - December 14, 2017 at 12:17 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Catholic_Lady - December 14, 2017 at 11:04 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by JackRussell - December 14, 2017 at 2:12 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Dnte - December 15, 2017 at 1:05 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by John V - December 15, 2017 at 8:50 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by vorlon13 - December 15, 2017 at 8:53 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 15, 2017 at 9:36 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Catholic_Lady - December 15, 2017 at 10:57 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by brewer - December 15, 2017 at 2:08 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Succubus - December 15, 2017 at 1:43 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Dnte - December 15, 2017 at 2:02 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Dnte - December 15, 2017 at 11:58 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 15, 2017 at 12:27 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Succubus - December 15, 2017 at 4:17 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 15, 2017 at 12:49 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Mister Agenda - December 15, 2017 at 12:43 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Whateverist - December 15, 2017 at 1:05 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 15, 2017 at 1:08 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Dnte - December 15, 2017 at 1:33 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 15, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by brewer - December 15, 2017 at 3:57 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 15, 2017 at 2:38 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 15, 2017 at 2:51 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Ravenshire - December 15, 2017 at 3:35 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 15, 2017 at 3:59 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by brewer - December 15, 2017 at 5:45 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 16, 2017 at 10:55 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by brewer - December 16, 2017 at 11:12 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - December 16, 2017 at 12:20 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Abaddon_ire - December 17, 2017 at 10:16 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 15, 2017 at 3:46 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Dnte - December 15, 2017 at 9:39 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Haipule - December 16, 2017 at 1:48 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 16, 2017 at 6:46 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Haipule - December 16, 2017 at 9:48 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 16, 2017 at 11:44 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by vorlon13 - December 15, 2017 at 4:38 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Neo-Scholastic - December 15, 2017 at 4:42 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by vorlon13 - December 16, 2017 at 1:04 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Succubus - December 16, 2017 at 6:59 pm

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