RE: Christianity a scam?
December 14, 2017 at 11:04 am
(This post was last modified: December 14, 2017 at 11:07 am by Catholic_Lady.)
(December 14, 2017 at 12:17 am)possibletarian Wrote: I think CL is saying that if you are part of a scam and a lie from its inception, and that you took part and participated in the full knowledge that what you are saying and teaching is not true, then you are less likely to be willing to die for it.
As opposed to being taken in by a con, and believing things which simply are not true.
Yes this is what I meant. Thanks poss!
(December 14, 2017 at 12:54 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:(December 13, 2017 at 11:11 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: No. We aren't saying bc they died for it that it happened. We are saying bc they died for it they obviously didn't think it was a hoax that they were supposedly part of.
Unless they also got scammed...
Or, convinced themselves that the scam wasn't a scam...
Right, but I was responding to the OP which claimed Jesus' disciples were in on the conspiracy to stage all the miracles, thus being part of the scam and knowing Jesus was a fraud all along.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
