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Christianity a scam?
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RE: Christianity a scam?
(December 15, 2017 at 3:35 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:
(December 15, 2017 at 2:51 pm)SteveII Wrote: @Dnte

Don't imagine that Minimalist has any valid points here simply because I don't anwer. I don't ever respond to him out of principle (he falls short of my "has character" threshold). If you (or anyone) wants to take up his argument, I will respond.

Making points you can't counter is your measure of (a lack of) "character." That actually explains a lot.

Go ahead, try making a point you think you can defend. We'll see what happens.


(December 15, 2017 at 3:57 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(December 15, 2017 at 2:26 pm)SteveII Wrote: The miracles performed would have been remarkable in any era. 

The inconvenient fact that their beliefs were abhorrent to Judaism is a clear indication that "money, power, authority, influence, prestige, etc." were not reasons for the early church to perpetuate the teachings of Jesus. In addition, no one for centuries achieved "money, power, authority, influence, prestige, etc." --are you saying they were thinking ahead 10+ generations? 
So what were the reasons? It appears that in the beginning it was a passive revenge cult against the oppressors. Our magic will eventually punish them and reward us.

You have no clue what the NT is about do you? How about you post some passages to support your characterization? In the meantime, I will post a pretty popular series of verses called "The Romans Road" that indicates something entirely different. 

Romans 3:23 NKJV – for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Romans 3:10 NKJV – As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one;
Romans 5:12 NKJV – Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned–
Romans 6:23 NKJV – For the wages of sin [is] death, but the gift of God [is] eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 5:8 NKJV – But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 10:9-10 NKJV – that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation
Romans 10:13 NKJV – For “whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved.”
Romans 10:17 NKJV – So then faith [comes] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
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Christianity a scam? - by Dnte - December 12, 2017 at 12:11 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by brewer - December 12, 2017 at 12:20 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by vulcanlogician - December 12, 2017 at 12:24 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Dnte - December 12, 2017 at 12:22 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 12, 2017 at 1:44 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Godscreated - December 12, 2017 at 1:50 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by possibletarian - December 12, 2017 at 4:34 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Aoi Magi - December 12, 2017 at 4:55 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Mister Agenda - December 12, 2017 at 10:44 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Godscreated - December 13, 2017 at 1:49 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Mister Agenda - December 13, 2017 at 11:37 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Godscreated - December 14, 2017 at 12:35 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Mister Agenda - December 14, 2017 at 10:47 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Bow Before Zeus - December 12, 2017 at 5:09 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by possibletarian - December 12, 2017 at 5:42 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Bow Before Zeus - December 12, 2017 at 6:01 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Brian37 - December 12, 2017 at 8:42 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Drich - December 12, 2017 at 10:40 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 12, 2017 at 12:45 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Fake Messiah - December 13, 2017 at 12:59 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by chimp3 - December 13, 2017 at 1:08 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 13, 2017 at 1:10 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Catholic_Lady - December 13, 2017 at 11:22 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by brewer - December 13, 2017 at 3:24 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 13, 2017 at 4:16 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Catholic_Lady - December 13, 2017 at 5:50 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by brewer - December 13, 2017 at 8:20 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Catholic_Lady - December 13, 2017 at 8:27 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 13, 2017 at 10:55 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Ravenshire - December 13, 2017 at 11:02 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Catholic_Lady - December 13, 2017 at 11:11 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Succubus - December 13, 2017 at 11:32 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by vorlon13 - December 14, 2017 at 8:32 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Ravenshire - December 14, 2017 at 12:54 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Godscreated - December 14, 2017 at 2:36 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Fake Messiah - December 14, 2017 at 2:39 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Godscreated - December 14, 2017 at 2:52 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Fake Messiah - December 14, 2017 at 3:36 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Ravenshire - December 14, 2017 at 10:51 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Godscreated - December 15, 2017 at 3:15 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Ravenshire - December 13, 2017 at 4:06 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Succubus - December 13, 2017 at 10:45 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by NuclearEnergy - December 13, 2017 at 1:23 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 13, 2017 at 1:37 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Catholic_Lady - December 13, 2017 at 2:12 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by downbeatplumb - December 15, 2017 at 11:56 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by John V - December 13, 2017 at 4:23 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Angrboda - December 13, 2017 at 4:52 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by John V - December 13, 2017 at 5:08 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Mister Agenda - December 13, 2017 at 6:11 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 13, 2017 at 9:37 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 13, 2017 at 11:56 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by possibletarian - December 14, 2017 at 12:17 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Catholic_Lady - December 14, 2017 at 11:04 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by JackRussell - December 14, 2017 at 2:12 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Dnte - December 15, 2017 at 1:05 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by John V - December 15, 2017 at 8:50 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by vorlon13 - December 15, 2017 at 8:53 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 15, 2017 at 9:36 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Catholic_Lady - December 15, 2017 at 10:57 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by brewer - December 15, 2017 at 2:08 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Succubus - December 15, 2017 at 1:43 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Dnte - December 15, 2017 at 2:02 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Dnte - December 15, 2017 at 11:58 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 15, 2017 at 12:27 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Succubus - December 15, 2017 at 4:17 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 15, 2017 at 12:49 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Mister Agenda - December 15, 2017 at 12:43 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Whateverist - December 15, 2017 at 1:05 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 15, 2017 at 1:08 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Dnte - December 15, 2017 at 1:33 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 15, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by brewer - December 15, 2017 at 3:57 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 15, 2017 at 2:38 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 15, 2017 at 2:51 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Ravenshire - December 15, 2017 at 3:35 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 15, 2017 at 3:59 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by brewer - December 15, 2017 at 5:45 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by SteveII - December 16, 2017 at 10:55 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by brewer - December 16, 2017 at 11:12 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - December 16, 2017 at 12:20 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Abaddon_ire - December 17, 2017 at 10:16 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Minimalist - December 15, 2017 at 3:46 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Dnte - December 15, 2017 at 9:39 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Haipule - December 16, 2017 at 1:48 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 16, 2017 at 6:46 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Haipule - December 16, 2017 at 9:48 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 16, 2017 at 11:44 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by vorlon13 - December 15, 2017 at 4:38 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Neo-Scholastic - December 15, 2017 at 4:42 pm
RE: Christianity a scam? - by vorlon13 - December 16, 2017 at 1:04 am
RE: Christianity a scam? - by Succubus - December 16, 2017 at 6:59 pm

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