(December 16, 2017 at 2:01 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:(December 16, 2017 at 1:26 am)Little Rik Wrote: 1) After millions years that homo sapient exist none has so far produced any evidence that when we die also the consciousness dies.
2) NDEs are clear evidence that when the body dies the consciousness leaves the body and
lives on.
First off, let me say that I am agnostic about any sort of afterlife or continued existence after
death. Nobody really knows. But oblivion (ie. no consciousness after death) seems to be the most plausible conclusion. Your two arguments do little to budge me from that position.
1. The contents of consciousness are causally reducible to neuronal activity. So that alone
gives us some reason to believe that when we, our consciousness also ceases. There may also be a burden of proof issue here. Do I need to prove that it dies? Or do you need to prove that it keeps existing?
2. NDEs are just that. Things that living organisms experience when they are near death. In most cases, it would be unethical to
measure brain activity on someone near the brink of death (there are more pressing matters to which physicians must attend) but I did manage to find an article suggesting a possible correlation between EEG readings and NDEs.
This suggests that an NDE is something related to activity in the still living brain-- not the experience of a disembodied soul.
https://www.nature.com/scitable/blog/brain-
metrics/could_a_final_surge_in
After you smash your car after an accident obviously there is a lot of activity in the smashed car.
The wreck will be very very hot.
Energy waves will travel very very fast from top to bottom from side to side.
There is no question about activities.
Exactly the same applies to a body (brain included).
That doesn’t mean that this wreck of a brain is able to put together an experience so sharp and vivid such as an NDE.
In fact the possibility to be able to do that are next to zero.