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Trascending through time
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RE: Trascending through time
(December 19, 2017 at 4:29 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(December 19, 2017 at 10:10 am)Little Rik Wrote: According to yoga and to me everything is made of consciousness.
Matter is the most crude form of consciousness followed by plants, animals, human beings and God which is the supreme consciousness.
The brain is but a source of energy that consciousness use to expand.
The difference between brain and mind is that the brain is a like a vehicle while the mind is the driver.  Think

I neither accept you or "yoga" as an authority on any matter. I accept logical conclusions. Your particular conclusion was arrived at logically by Rene Descartes in the 17th century, but there are a number of problems with his view (which is called substance dualism btw). Descartes couldn't reconcile the mental imagery with which we are presented (mind) with the physical world we perceive to be there (body/material). He made an analogy much like your own. He said the mind relates to the body like a sailor relates to a ship. But even Descartes saw that it went deeper than that. When his ship is damaged, a sailor says to himself, "Okay, I need to go fix that." But when our bodies are damaged, we don't just say, "Ok. Let me go get a bandaid." We say, "Ouch!" So, assuming substance dualism is true, the vehicle analogy only takes us so far.

(December 17, 2017 at 5:50 am)Little Rik Wrote: A brain without consciousness is a dead brain.


Lightbulb  Maybe you have that backwards. What evidence do you have that it works the other way around? Look. Tell me which view of these two you accept: panpsychism or substance dualism. They are distinct and it would be nice to know what I'm arguing against. Or is it some other theory?


(December 17, 2017 at 5:50 am)Little Rik Wrote: Philosophy is not only about expanding the intellect.

I think I disagree with that, but the statement is open to interpretation.


(December 17, 2017 at 5:50 am)Little Rik Wrote: Philosophy is rather love for knowledge.

Philosophy is the love of wisdom... true knowledge. How do we differentiate true knowledge from untrue (ie. false) knowledge?

First, by dispensing with your own prejudices and assuming you know nothing.

Then, by using logic and information to try to interpret the world. As you said in a previous post-- from the ground up.
I once asked people "how does a wound heal?" All the answer were related to the human brain. Then I asked them, "then how does a tree heal it's wounds?"

Upon further study, the tree does not "heal" but rather covers the wound. Still the question remains the same: how?

Upon even further study, I learned that trees have stem cells. This forced me to look at human hair. It is much like a tree growing in a cone shape with rings and bark! And, has stem cells which make them grow, which stem cells are borrowed to heal our wounds! Is that cool or what?!

Everything to me, keeps relating to Vacuum Mechanics! It seems the energy knows what it needs and how to fix the problem independent of the human brain! What does that mean? I'm a stupid surfer, you tell me!
My girlfriend thinks I'm a stalker. Well...she's not my girlfriend "yet".

I discovered a new vitamin that fights cancer. I call it ...B9

I also invented a diet pill. It works great but had to quit taking it because of the side effects. Turns out my penis is larger and my hair grew back. And whoa! If you think my hair is nice!

When does size truly matter? When it's TOO big!

I'm currently working on a new pill I call "Destenze". However...now my shoes don't fit.
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Trascending through time - by Macoleco - December 4, 2017 at 8:00 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Succubus - December 4, 2017 at 8:50 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Minimalist - December 4, 2017 at 8:58 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Grandizer - December 4, 2017 at 9:00 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Macoleco - December 4, 2017 at 10:12 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Grandizer - December 4, 2017 at 10:16 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by brewer - December 5, 2017 at 12:11 am
RE: Trascending through time - by bennyboy - December 5, 2017 at 12:38 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Edwardo Piet - December 5, 2017 at 10:39 am
RE: Trascending through time - by The Grand Nudger - December 5, 2017 at 10:41 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Edwardo Piet - December 5, 2017 at 10:42 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Angrboda - December 5, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Macoleco - December 5, 2017 at 8:42 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by AFTT47 - December 6, 2017 at 12:13 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Amarok - December 5, 2017 at 2:27 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by The Grand Nudger - December 6, 2017 at 9:26 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Macoleco - December 6, 2017 at 1:38 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by purplepurpose - December 6, 2017 at 1:40 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by AFTT47 - December 16, 2017 at 12:57 am
RE: Trascending through time - by John V - December 12, 2017 at 8:50 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Neo-Scholastic - December 12, 2017 at 9:24 am
RE: Trascending through time - by John V - December 13, 2017 at 8:42 am
RE: Trascending through time - by SaStrike - December 13, 2017 at 9:32 am
RE: Trascending through time - by John V - December 13, 2017 at 9:51 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Macoleco - December 13, 2017 at 11:13 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Little Rik - December 14, 2017 at 3:53 am
RE: Trascending through time - by bennyboy - December 15, 2017 at 11:13 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Little Rik - December 15, 2017 at 11:53 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Little Rik - December 16, 2017 at 12:16 am
RE: Trascending through time - by SaStrike - December 14, 2017 at 4:46 am
RE: Trascending through time - by John V - December 14, 2017 at 8:17 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Macoleco - December 14, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by John V - December 14, 2017 at 2:43 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Astreja - December 15, 2017 at 2:20 am
RE: Trascending through time - by John V - December 15, 2017 at 8:47 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Astreja - December 15, 2017 at 4:24 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Haipule - December 16, 2017 at 12:34 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Macoleco - December 15, 2017 at 4:03 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 16, 2017 at 12:14 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Little Rik - December 16, 2017 at 12:41 am
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 16, 2017 at 12:47 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Little Rik - December 16, 2017 at 1:26 am
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 16, 2017 at 2:01 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Little Rik - December 16, 2017 at 7:24 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 16, 2017 at 9:07 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Little Rik - December 16, 2017 at 9:56 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Succubus - December 16, 2017 at 9:07 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Macoleco - December 16, 2017 at 10:08 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 16, 2017 at 10:15 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Little Rik - December 16, 2017 at 10:39 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 17, 2017 at 12:31 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Macoleco - December 17, 2017 at 12:44 am
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 17, 2017 at 12:56 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Little Rik - December 16, 2017 at 10:14 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 17, 2017 at 12:12 am
RE: Trascending through time - by notimportant1234 - December 19, 2017 at 4:38 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Macoleco - December 17, 2017 at 12:25 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Little Rik - December 17, 2017 at 5:50 am
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 17, 2017 at 6:20 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Little Rik - December 19, 2017 at 10:10 am
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 19, 2017 at 4:29 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Haipule - December 19, 2017 at 5:41 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 19, 2017 at 5:47 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Little Rik - December 20, 2017 at 10:16 am
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 21, 2017 at 2:16 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Whateverist - December 21, 2017 at 8:53 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Little Rik - December 21, 2017 at 9:39 am
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 21, 2017 at 10:33 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Little Rik - December 22, 2017 at 8:57 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Haipule - December 18, 2017 at 3:00 am
RE: Trascending through time - by notimportant1234 - December 20, 2017 at 4:19 am
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 21, 2017 at 4:41 am
RE: Trascending through time - by Macoleco - December 20, 2017 at 2:57 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2017 at 4:03 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by Haipule - December 20, 2017 at 5:35 pm
RE: Trascending through time - by notimportant1234 - December 21, 2017 at 4:52 am
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 21, 2017 at 5:18 am
RE: Trascending through time - by notimportant1234 - December 21, 2017 at 5:22 am
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 21, 2017 at 6:39 am
RE: Trascending through time - by vulcanlogician - December 21, 2017 at 9:06 am

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