RE: How to answer "I know that I know that I know"?
December 20, 2017 at 11:54 am
(This post was last modified: December 20, 2017 at 11:56 am by Whateverist.)
(December 20, 2017 at 8:18 am)riaaneloff Wrote: Fact is, after our conversations, he has come up with three things that I cannot seem to find answers to. I'm convinced he is wrong, but I do not know how to answer:
1) God is so great, so amazing, so holy, that all the pain in the world (babies dying of cancer, entire civilizations wiped out by Israel, tsunamis killing thousands of people) is so minuscule in comparison to what he SHOULD be doing to us for being sinful, that my friend does not regard it as immoral/wrong/bad. He believes that god should actually just wipe us from the universe...BUT, god is being gracious, and only allowing some small pain.
2) He agrees that the bible may not be perfect, and that it is not the inerrant Word of God...but, he believes that the bible is a good guide, as the bible (for him) correlates to what he sees in the world today.
3) Even though he agrees that he has NO EVIDENCE for god, he holds to the fact that he just knows that he knows that he knows god is real and is part of his daily life.
I realize that if he does not want to be convinced, he may never be...BUT, I cannot simply (in good conscience), let him continue destroying his, his wife, and his son's lives with ridiculous "whim-like" decisions based on the faith that god will sort it all. I cannot stand idly by while this continues to happen to my best friend...and I honestly feel a very strong urge to chat with him more, and deconstruct his beliefs, at least to the point where he is able to make more reasonable and rational decisions.
Any advice on those three questions/answers?
1 - Since he provides no justification for why he believes this there is nothing to say. Justifying a negative is always a tough row to hoe, and I don't feel like trying.
2 - This again is all about what he likes and believes for god only knows what reason. There is nothing to say.
3 - All about him. I think he uses "knows" in the same bastardized way he is using "believe", it all goes back to what he wishes for his own idiosyncratic reasons.
But welcome to the forum. Yours is an interesting story. Dealing with your friend is part of what you have to extricate yourself from to fully liberate yourself from the religious madness you were born into. Best of luck with that.
(December 20, 2017 at 9:21 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Um........ do we have a POE and I got sucked in?
Well I do note that this is his one and only post. Who knows? Meh.