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RE: Language
(December 23, 2017 at 3:36 am)Haipule Wrote:
(December 22, 2017 at 7:06 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Despite the claim that there's such a thing as Koine Greek no one has been able to produce such a Greek alphabet.  Can you do it?  And there was no comprehensive Bible until around 690 A.D.  BTW, the Apocrypha was included from the start and was in almost every version.  Do you know when someone got a bug up his butt and deleted it?  I'll tell you if you want to know.
It's cool that you know these things. I go with the alphabet of the autographed language Scripture commonly accepted in the several interlinear bibles I own. KoinE(Jerusalem area Greek creole street language) was a dialect of the Attic Greek of Alexander the Great. Which itself, is a dialect of the Classical Greek.

As far as the Apocrypha, the Jewish "Holy Scriptures(OT)" books, are the same as English KJV, NIV and NASV only in a different order. However, there is a much longer version of Jeremiah somewhere but, I don't remember where? Yet, the Apocrypha is not included in the versions of the Jewish "Holy Scriptures" I have seen. So, if someone did take them out I would guess its was post-Septuagint(Torah was early koinE 3rd century BC).

I hope your not going to say, "That dude from Hippo" because that dude was a complete clown! How did he become a saint?

Many of the older versions of Scripture such as the Coptic are translated from the Septuagint and not the Hebrew/Aramaic texts. So yes, they include the Apocrypha.

Having studied a little more, I realize this is an old argument with out a consensus. I though Max Muller list of speculative theories was interesting:

Bow-wow
Pooh-pooh
ding-dong
yo-he-ho
ta-ta

I'm going with tic-tac-toe because no one wins!

Two English guys, Westcott & Hort, led the effort to rewrite the Bible in the 1870s.  Once consequence of that is that the writers deleted the Apocrypha in their version so it's only been gone about 132-135 years.

http://rockingodshouse.com/why-were-14-b...e-in-1881/

http://www.chick.com/reading/books/157/157_08a.asp

That'll get you started.  You can Google Westcott & Hort for a lot of articles about them.  The New York Times archives is loaded with articles from that time period covering the Bible revisions and religious issues.  You can read them for free on a PDF format.  You can also examine some old Bibles on various sites and they all have the Apocrypha as an integral part.  

All of the Greek language Bibles that claim to be from the Third or Fourth Centuries are fakes.
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Language - by Haipule - December 20, 2017 at 2:44 pm
RE: Language - by purplepurpose - December 20, 2017 at 3:05 pm
RE: Language - by c172 - December 20, 2017 at 3:09 pm
RE: Language - by Brian37 - December 20, 2017 at 3:30 pm
RE: Language - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2017 at 3:49 pm
RE: Language - by brewer - December 20, 2017 at 5:56 pm
RE: Language - by Haipule - December 20, 2017 at 6:20 pm
RE: Language - by brewer - December 20, 2017 at 6:25 pm
RE: Language - by Brian37 - December 26, 2017 at 11:18 am
RE: Language - by Haipule - December 27, 2017 at 10:03 pm
RE: Language - by Minimalist - December 20, 2017 at 5:59 pm
RE: Language - by Whateverist - December 20, 2017 at 6:41 pm
RE: Language - by Simon Moon - December 20, 2017 at 7:06 pm
RE: Language - by Haipule - December 20, 2017 at 7:37 pm
RE: Language - by Simon Moon - December 20, 2017 at 7:54 pm
RE: Language - by Haipule - December 20, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: Language - by Simon Moon - December 20, 2017 at 9:37 pm
RE: Language - by Simon Moon - December 20, 2017 at 10:09 pm
RE: Language - by Neo-Scholastic - December 20, 2017 at 7:29 pm
RE: Language - by bennyboy - December 20, 2017 at 8:14 pm
RE: Language - by Anomalocaris - December 20, 2017 at 8:32 pm
RE: Language - by Haipule - December 20, 2017 at 9:17 pm
RE: Language - by Minimalist - December 20, 2017 at 9:31 pm
RE: Language - by chimp3 - December 20, 2017 at 9:44 pm
RE: Language - by ignoramus - December 21, 2017 at 2:51 am
RE: Language - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 21, 2017 at 4:52 am
RE: Language - by Godscreated - December 21, 2017 at 10:48 am
RE: Language - by Haipule - December 21, 2017 at 4:50 pm
RE: Language - by Godscreated - December 22, 2017 at 12:32 am
RE: Language - by Drich - December 21, 2017 at 10:50 am
RE: Language - by JackRussell - December 21, 2017 at 10:54 am
RE: Language - by downbeatplumb - December 21, 2017 at 11:02 am
RE: Language - by Neo-Scholastic - December 21, 2017 at 11:50 am
RE: Language - by drfuzzy - December 21, 2017 at 12:24 pm
RE: Language - by Haipule - December 21, 2017 at 10:08 pm
RE: Language - by Simon Moon - December 23, 2017 at 2:19 pm
RE: Language - by Haipule - December 25, 2017 at 3:03 am
RE: Language - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 21, 2017 at 11:28 pm
RE: Language - by Haipule - December 21, 2017 at 11:50 pm
RE: Language - by Fireball - December 22, 2017 at 12:24 am
RE: Language - by Haipule - December 22, 2017 at 1:39 am
RE: Language - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 22, 2017 at 4:52 am
RE: Language - by Haipule - December 22, 2017 at 6:03 pm
RE: Language - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 22, 2017 at 7:06 pm
RE: Language - by Haipule - December 23, 2017 at 3:36 am
RE: Language - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 23, 2017 at 4:37 am
RE: Language - by Thumpalumpacus - December 24, 2017 at 10:52 am
RE: Language - by Godscreated - December 25, 2017 at 1:21 am
RE: Language - by Thumpalumpacus - December 25, 2017 at 3:07 am
RE: Language - by Godscreated - December 26, 2017 at 12:49 am
RE: Language - by Thumpalumpacus - December 27, 2017 at 9:41 pm
RE: Language - by Haipule - December 24, 2017 at 6:30 pm
RE: Language - by Cecelia - December 27, 2017 at 12:05 pm

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