My House Did not have a Builder (or did it?)

[vulcanlogician]

Hey Dan, welcome to the forums! How's about an intro thread so we can get to know ya?

Edit: then we'll delve into your argument here.

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"From nothing nothing comes" is scientific. (I think it still is, isn't it? Under debate, maybe).
"The universe is something." I think that would be classified as a true statement.
"Therefore the universe came from something." I think that would be a nice logical conclusion.

I would say there's a non-sequitur here. While the universe is "something" we have no reason to believe it did not "come from nothing"... some cosmologists have postulated ways in which something can come from nothing.

A Rolex watch also requires a maker, and one who needs enough intelligence to make all the small intricate parts of the watch, and to make them all work together correctly and properly, and over a long period of time. The maker would have to know how to tell time, and how to cause the made item to also be able to tell time. This item is also quite functional, and also has a useful purpose, but since it is much more complex than a wooden chair, it requires more intelligence, and more labor as well, to accomplish the production of it.
Now the same could be said of a house, a hotel, a hospital, a skyscraper, or an entire city. Each requiring more intelligence, more organization, and more manpower to accomplish it's respective product.

Ah, the watchmaker argument. But what about black holes? They exist. But what purpose do they serve? For everything you can show that has a purpose, I can show you something without one. So the universe as a whole is a hodgepodge of things... some without purpose, some with. That doesn't necessarily point to a designer.