(December 28, 2017 at 9:38 pm)Dan Brooks Wrote: I heard that they were doing away with the "from nothing nothing comes" principle. I guess they did then, sorry.
No, it's not that. Lawrence Krauss's "nothing" is not the same "nothing" that philosophers generally refer to.
Quote:(Or is it a mandella effect?)
The Mandela effect is bullshit.
Quote:I also didn't realize that physicalities were equal to abstracts like math.
This is in response to which point?
Quote:So then the universe either came from something, or it came from nothing. Sounds good.
Or the universe has always been. There's more than two options to consider, believe it or not.
Quote:Amazingly, it takes less intelligence to create a universe than it does a wooden chair.
Strawman. I don't see any atheist here agree that the universe was created.
Quote:All you need is gravity! (wherever that came from.)
No, all you need is everything that exists.
Quote:And I know the seeing is not required for the thing to be true. Just like no one needs to have heard the tree fall in the forest for it to make a sound. Truth is not dependent upon knowledge or belief.
Yeah, but you still need to determine that there was a tree that fell in the first place. The sound could have been due to something else. You can't make shit up just because you feel like it.