(December 30, 2017 at 12:24 pm)Dan Brooks Wrote:Your god is most certainly man made. Evidence : There is no knowledge in the bible attributed to god that a bronze aged man could not have known or imagined. What is amusing is that otherwise intelligent people are repeating this magician in the sky nonsense as if it holds up under minimal scrutiny. Cure for tuberculosis? Birds blood spread by the flapping wings of a live bird. Cures for other diseases? Incantations and gesticulations. Get real!(December 30, 2017 at 2:37 am)shadow Wrote: I think this is a really good point. I hadn't thought of it this way before.
I used to say, "In the beginning, God made man in His own image. In the end, man made God in his own image."
Yes, people have and do create gods in their image and likeness. This happens all the time. They can't deal with a God they can't relate to, so they make one that they can relate to.
There's an interesting story in the book of Jasher about what Abram did to his father Terah's gods. He asked him who it was that made mankind and the heavens and the earth, and his father took him to a room filled with idols and said, "These are they which made us, and everything there is." So one day when Terah wasn't around, Abram went in there with a meal to offer to them, and he saw that none of them reached out to take the meal. So he took a hatchet and broke them all except for the largest one, and put the hatchet into the hands of the largest one, and left.
Later on, Terah went into the room and saw all his gods destroyed except the large one with the hatchet in it, and he said to Abram, "What have you done?" And Abram said, "I did nothing. The large god took the hatchet and destroyed all the smaller gods." And Terah said to him," Why do you lie? Do gods of stone and wood, which I have made myself, have any power or spirit in them to move about and do such things?" And Abram answered, "Why then do you serve them, seeing that they have no power or spirit in them. How can they protect you or provide for you?"
So yes, people do make gods to relate to. And those gods are fake. They have no power to do anything. Like the Bible says, "Eyes have they, but they see not. Ears have they, but they hear not. Mouths have they, but they speak not. Hands have they but they handle not. And those that make them are like unto them."
Let's say someone you know made a figurine in your likeness, and put it in the main room of their house. You may be quite flattered at first. But they didn't stop there. They not only made the figurine, but they spoke to it every day and had imaginary conversations with it, as if it were really you. You would probably think they had gone mad. But after a while, you would not only think that, but you would probably start getting upset and wonder why they are acting as though the figurine is actually you, and ignoring the real you.
The figurine isn't alive, and can't do anything, and is obviously a very poor substitute for the real you. But the fact that there is a lifeless figurine of you doesn't relegate the real you into nonexistence. You still exist, and you're much better than the stupid figurine of you that just sits there doing nothing.
So also does the fact that people make up lifeless gods that do nothing relegate the real God into nonexistence. That is, the fact that there are false gods is not evidence that there isn't a real God.
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!