(January 1, 2018 at 9:53 pm)Whateverist Wrote:(January 1, 2018 at 9:17 pm)Dan Brooks Wrote: It's symbolic of spiritual cleansing.
See, that is how you should read the bible, as literature. How do you decide when to read it this way and when to start taking everything literally, as you go on to do here:
(January 1, 2018 at 9:17 pm)Dan Brooks Wrote: When we sin, our literal blood becomes corrupted. That's why we all die.
Now you're using the bible as an empirical reference - why? How do you decide the blood is figurative in the context of cleansing but actually and factually contaminated by sin causing our bodies to die when we would otherwise live forever?
(January 1, 2018 at 9:17 pm)Dan Brooks Wrote: Even if someone never gets sick or died in an accident or anything, if they live to be over 100 years old and are still healthy, they will still die. We are born with a sin nature (meaning that at some point, we will sin, it is inevitable), and we are spiritually dead. And once we actually commit a sin, our sin causes us to die physically (eventually.) And if those sins are not remitted, then we will be judged for them and punished for them.
.. assuming you were correct in your initial guess that the bible is the place to discover stuff about the god you assume exists. From where I stand it would seem I have no more reason to think the bible is the place for important information to avoid supernatural dangers than I have to believe that stepping on a crack will break my mother's back. There just isn't anything compelling about warnings regarding the supernatural, a place from all accounts which is completely apart from the real world. I'll take my chances.
I'm not sure how to quote specific lines of text in these posts, so I'll just answer in order the best I can.
I do my best to read the Bible the way it's supposed to be read. The New Testament explains what the blood sacrifices in the Old Testament were for, and what the law is for. Everything in the Bible is about the Messiah. Although there are books of poetry, and books of prophecy, and historical accounts, etc, all of them in one way or another point to the Messiah. That's what the whole thing is about. So the New Testament tells us that the OT law says that without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins, and then shows us that the whole point of that was to look forward to the Messiah shedding His blood. And it also says that the law (first 5 books) was a school master to bring us to Christ. Because no one can keep the law of God. It is impossible. There were many people in Jesus' day who were trying to follow God's law, and they thought they were doing a pretty good job. But Jesus explained how well they had to keep the law. He said they had to be perfect. We have to be absolutely completely sinless. And of course nobody is, so we have a problem.
That's why we need Jesus, because He is sinless. He purposely died on the cross, taking our sins on Him, so that when He died, our sins did with Him. It is a gift God gave us. But if we refuse that gift, then we are required to pay for our own sins. They will be paid for one way or the other.
And as far the supernatural, it's not just some far of place that has nothing to do with the physical world. It's all around us, all over the place. Even Led Zeppelin says that.
"The sky is filled with good and bad
That mortals never know."
From The Battle of Evermore. So there's an extra-biblical reference for you. lol.
