(January 2, 2018 at 5:42 am)SaStrike Wrote: firstly, the "singularity" part that in your opinion caused the big bang, is just you trying to bend things to suit the quran text you quoted. but seems to me you misunderstood. the reason it says "he who is one" is because at the time the multi god religions were the in-thing so he (creator of islam, a man, men write books, creators of universe would do better in my opinion) wanted to emphasize that it is one god that should be worhipped, not the many gods being worshipped and that they were wrong. it does not mention a singularity causing the big bang. just looks to me as f he is trying to get people to say stuff. or, trying to make it seem as if an angel is telling him to say something.
secondly, the part about creating and destroying the universe. this is just you doing gymnastics again. humans and animals and life on earth is what is being mentioned. not the universe lol. the whole "begins creation then repeats it" means life on earth. which was obvious at the time. things being born. then in addition, it doesnt say anything about destroying? you unintentionally added things to the quran. since you read scientific theories, you were so focused on trying to fit it to the quran that you committed the mistake you despise: when people add their own things to quran. the universe creation and destruction was NOT mentioned. the part you quoted was about human creation. since destruction was NOT mentioned (and we know for a fact that in islam humans only get created and not destroyed, they are eternal) my translation is more probable than yours.
so no atlas, there is no scientific knowledge "way ahead of its time" no matter how much gymnastics will be done, there's always a more reasonable explanation as to why he wrote what he wrote. but not your fault, it's a very vague text, take that in with the willingness of people to find a link with science and religion, is an easy mistake to make.
Firstly; the singularity "didn't make the big bang", but the "big bang made the singularity" into a universe that makes sense.
Others say the "big bang" itself is the singularity.
After all, all materials and all space was actually compressed inside the singularity; so it can be expected that the big bang itself is the singularity.
I am not bending the theory; but initial singularity has the name of God written allover it.
1-It is time itself
2-It is space itself
3-It created everything we can see today
4-It existed before time and space
5-It is one and only.
Secondly; no the verses included the heavens too:
Quote:Sura 21, The Quran:
( 104 ) The Day when We will fold the heaven like the folding of a [written] sheet for the records. As We began the first creation, We will repeat it. [That is] a promise binding upon Us. Indeed, We will do it.
The whole universe is spoken about with this verse. We don't live in the "heavens"; but they will be the ones folded sheets.
Moreover:
Quote:Sura 39, The Quran:
( 68 ) And the Horn will be blown, and whoever is in the heavens and whoever is on the earth will fall dead except whom Allah wills. Then it will be blown again, and at once they will be standing, looking on.
It seems to me that everybody we be destroyed in the first blow of the horn; and the verse specified literally that everything in the heavens and earth would fall dead.
Quote:Sura 14, The Quran:
( 48 ) [It will be] on the Day the earth will be replaced by another earth, and the heavens [as well], and all creatures will come out before Allah, the One, the Prevailing.
The full picture can't be clearer. The universe (with its heaven and land) will witness the fall.
