(January 10, 2018 at 2:53 pm)wallym Wrote: Sounds good in theory, but who really wants to foot the cost? How many people could live in your home? Two in a bed, one on the couch, 4 on the floor? That's how they'd rock it in plenty of countries? And we have homeless people in the US. You looking to add 6 roommates? I'd assume not. Because we like our standard of living.
We spend 60 billion a year on pets while we have humans starving in our country.
The decision has already been made, and it's not "Let's take care of all the humans of the world." It's let's have a really high standard of living, and maybe we'll share some scraps with the less fortunate if we feel like it.
(January 10, 2018 at 12:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Yeah.... good point, Wally.
Why don't the natives take back the land? Because they can't. Because the immigrants killed most of them, took all their land, and stuck them on reservations. That's not a ringing endorsement for immigration.
"Wait in line" is the "Sounds nice in theory", not the "Who wants to foot the cost"
I don't even care if we are talking even a stable family. Nobody wants to encounter the unexpected. It isn't about either or. It is about what you would want for yourself if you suddenly sank, and had a family to feed. Even here, even when we are not talking about migration, families can do all the right things, and a sudden huge disruption, like an accident, health issue, lose of a job, or even a sudden robbery, where someone dies, which takes away one of the bread winners, and or the only bread winner. It happens all the time.
I think far too many humans fail to see that this is not a flat surface we live on, it is a globe. While self preservation is evolutionary, it is still the same for everyone, and when we lose our compassion for others, that is when we start becoming cruel to each other.
Nobody wants to foot the cost, and nobody wants to die either, and we all want to provide for ourselves and our families, and all of that is universal. So it still becomes a choice between empathy and coldness.