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Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
(January 14, 2018 at 9:17 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(January 14, 2018 at 9:12 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Not an accurate description.

I pick my rivals more wisely. MK speaks in the name of an institution; my intentions are explicit and official. The Shiite Twelver instituion corrupts the Middle East, and just like the Wahhabi institution it sends Bacteria like MK to forums, social media sites...etc, with the intention of spreading the religion of choice.

Actually it is "YOU" who give MK attention, not me. You believe him and enlarge his account.

Don't you see the pattern in his posts? That picture applies to him trying to sell propaganda to atheists; not me.

Atlass33

How many times have you heard me say, I do appreciate your calling out those in your ranks using religion to call for violence. YES the world needs more voices like yours. Every religion needs that, Christians and Jews and Hindus not just Muslims.

Religion in all it's forums is propaganda. NO that is not to say every religious person seeks dominance over others or to oppress others. I am NOT claiming that.

I am saying that most humans get sold a product BEFORE they can kick the tires. The Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu and Buddhist are going to grow up buying what their parents sell them most of the time. Humans don't like their social norms upset, and as babies and kids, we are protected by our parents, and since we don't have adults brains at birth we trust them, and that bond forms groups and those groups form local, regional and national communities. 

Point is, every religion has something to sell. It isn't that every religious individual is evil or bad. It is to say humans form groups, and CAN and do often form their safety in numbers on false perceptions.

Religion is a horrible way to conduct national or global diplomacy. Every umbrella label has sub sects that via for attention and power in politics. It is more pronounced between entire religions. It is why you know far too well the divisions between Sunni and Shiite Muslims. But, it is also why you cant get Obama voting Baptists and Trump voting Baptists to agree. It is why Ireland has had it's history of violence between Catholics and Protestant Christians, which is currently not at peace, but at an uneasy truce. It is why a Tibet Buddhist will not agree politically with a Chinese Buddhist, or why a Japanese Shinto Buddhist wont agree with a Chinese Buddhist.

I also repeatedly and consistently remind everyone YOU CANNOT end religion by force. Our species is still the same species. But humans can get our priorities in order, and put our common needs above religion and put our differences on the back burner.

Individuality is the most essential thing in my perspective to choose the correct path; since everybody needs to choose their pick; the right pick for anyone is what they choose independently; without the intervention of parents, governments, teachers,...etc.

I agree with you that to manufacture the perfect puppet; you need to target the subject at a very young age.
It's always the sentence: "we found our fathers on a cause; we will fight blindly for it just like them". From there; racism is born; tribalism is born, religious extremism is born.

I'm still telling you Brian, and telling every reader that there is a religion of the so many, that beats on the drums of individuality and orders its followers to think independently. The medieval Christian Church mentality of "follow without questions" is not even an option with that religion.

Sunni and Shiite static should be called for what it is: they are mere versions and mere customization of Islam. That's why walls of text are used by Shiite and Sunni missionaries to justify their versions of the faith.

With that dealt with; politicians and cult leaders usually handshake to produce the kind of sick control over people, and when you control people; you control everything from borders to resources. The first step to fix this, is to shut down any calls demanding people to change species from humans that think to sheep that follow.

The darkness begins with one word: "shut up, don't think". It turns into a process of selling one's own fate to other parts.. a facilitation of the sentence "sold his soul to the devil?"

(January 14, 2018 at 11:22 am)chimp3 Wrote:
(January 14, 2018 at 9:12 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Not an accurate description.

Two officers on board the fictional battle ship called Islam pretending they are having a rocky ride? I think it fits.

No.

One "human being" reading a source book, and another on the other side posting walls of text from Shiite books and say that it's from the source.
Blindly; crowds eat popcorn and watch the electronic battle. Despite the other side's not answering official questions, and despite the other part using spam and repeated lousy points, and using idiotic teenage-like textual walls about emotions and mental illness, despite all of that the crowed is still eating the popcorn and agreeing that this is "rivalry".

He is not my "rival". I already called him for what he is: troll and electronic spam. Probably getting payed real cash from a Shiite missionary institution somewhere.

BTW; the internet is crawling with these; just visit youtube's comment section.
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RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran. - by WinterHold - January 14, 2018 at 12:37 pm

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