(January 16, 2018 at 1:37 pm)LuisDantas Wrote:(January 16, 2018 at 9:03 am)alpha male Wrote: And anti-religious people don't want to look at the good side of religion. They filter the positive and delude themselves.
Considering the ubiquity of religion in human cultures, it seems obvious that religion generally results in a net good for society.
That does not follow. A behavior that is popular is not necessarily positive.
Yea, if popular belief constituted benefit then the very brutal Terracotta Warriors of ancient China should be considered moral. Their collective behavior was good for the rulers they were protecting sure, but their authoritarian rule sucked for anyone who wasn't part of the clan, or wanted to speak out.
Alpha, misses the point, and even other religions miss the point, BACK THEN worldwide, most humans lived under local tribal ruling families, and WORLDWIDE being loyal to that local family ruler was more authoritarian and more of a demand.
AND Alpha, like other religious individuals, of other religions cant seem to understand that you CAN question, debate, blaspheme and even ridicule a claim, AND still at the same time value human rights.
As I said in my prior post, I LOVE MY LATE MOM very deeply. But, no, I don't believe eating a cracker does anything for you in reality. AND when the early Catholic Church started, all it really did, up until the age of enlightenment was replace the brutality of prior polytheism with their own brutality. The church and kings spread that religion by sword too. And even today it still suffers the scandals of priests hiding child molesters.
Islam has it's baggage too. So does Buddhism and Hinduism and Jews.
AGAIN, none of that is to say that humans cant do good and be good, but to say our behaviors are not the product of of a divine source.
