RE: Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.
January 20, 2018 at 7:04 pm
(This post was last modified: January 20, 2018 at 7:06 pm by WinterHold.)
(January 20, 2018 at 5:07 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Seems you aren't interested in a discussion but just rehearsing the same points.
You really have no shame from coming back preaching "the same message you yourself admitted to have "no mention in the Islamic main source book" !
-The post between me and you:
Me asking the OP about his religion:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-52455-p...pid1686286
Quote:AtlasS33 Said:
Bring them. I want names.
Jesus is mentioned by name:
Moses is mentioned by name:
Quote: Wrote:Sura 2, The Quran:
( 87 ) And We did certainly give Moses the Torah and followed up after him with messengers. And We gave Jesus, the son of Mary, clear proofs and supported him with the Pure Spirit. But is it [not] that every time a messenger came to you, [O Children of Israel], with what your souls did not desire, you were arrogant? And a party [of messengers] you denied and another party you killed.
Mohammed is mentioned by name:
Quote: Wrote:Sura 3, The Quran:
( 144 ) Muhammad is not but a messenger. [Other] messengers have passed on before him. So if he was to die or be killed, would you turn back on your heels [to unbelief]? And he who turns back on his heels will never harm Allah at all; but Allah will reward the grateful.
Noah, Lot, Abraham...etc, all are mentioned by name.
Where are your 12 imams? where are their names?
And here is -early on the discussion- the OP, lying directly about it:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-52455-p...pid1686280
Quote:MysticKnight said:
There is many direct verses, but you will dispute my translation. And so I would have to show the context (with the Surah) or with respect to the theme in Quran.
If you are not interested in the themes in Quran, you aren't interested in understanding a verse by Quran, but rather by your desires.
To end the discussion with this:
https://atheistforums.org/thread-52455-p...pid1686290
Quote:MysticKnight said:
Their (Abraham, Moses) truth however is not proven by mentioning their names, but the reasoning of Quran. And if you believe in Mohammad because Quran mentions by name, that is a pathetic reason to believe in Mohammad, it's circular and has no meaning.
As for the names of Imams in Quran, it's the sweetest themes.
No shame; OP ? At least have the honesty to admit?