RE: The cosmic regional block
January 20, 2018 at 9:42 pm
(This post was last modified: January 20, 2018 at 9:50 pm by GrandizerII.)
(January 20, 2018 at 12:30 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(January 20, 2018 at 8:49 am)Little Rik Wrote: Limitations only exist in this finite dimension.
That doesn't mean that we are bound to exist in this finite universe for ever.
Smart people in all ages did found the answer of how to exit this finite dimension.
They found out that the only way is to become one with the master of the dimension.
According to my faith; I don't believe anybody ever went there; i.e exit our current finite dimension.
All claim, and none provide enough evidence after returning from the "journey".
Take N.D.Es for example; or dreams, or alcoholic intoxication fantasies. It's always big claims that can be explained with a simple Whiskey shot.
We are stuck here according to what I believe.
(January 20, 2018 at 9:10 am)purplepurpose Wrote: Can both of you just accept reality of permanent death and stop this magical nonsense?
Why? give me one reason to believe you.
I disbelieve in this opinion, for the same reasons atheists disbelieve in theism.
(January 20, 2018 at 10:31 am)chimp3 Wrote: Light from some areas of this finite universe will never reach us. The universe is that damned huge. Plenty to keep us busy in contemplation without making shit up!
Big enough to keep ego fooled. And big enough to make someone thinks, too:
Quote:Sura 57, The Quran:
( 20 ) Know that the life of this world is but amusement and diversion and adornment and boasting to one another and competition in increase of wealth and children - like the example of a rain whose [resulting] plant growth pleases the non-believers; then it dries and you see it turned yellow; then it becomes [scattered] debris. And in the Hereafter is severe punishment and forgiveness from Allah and approval. And what is the worldly life except the enjoyment of delusion.
(January 20, 2018 at 11:26 am)Grandizer Wrote: Suppose we do live in an ultimate infinity of sorts, but that this local universe we occupy is just a finite part/portion of the infinity. What is the problem again?
Thinking in terms of mathematics: 1, 2, 3, and other natural numbers are finite numbers, yet altogether comprise an infinity of numbers.
Assumption is never a problem. The author can always assume what they want; and it will never change reality.
Reality is only decided through facts. That's the problem with infinity: there is no example for it existing or being there.
So I take it Allah's existence is not based on facts? After all, isn't Allah an example of infinity?
(January 20, 2018 at 1:57 pm)SaStrike Wrote: Because as you said, it's a concept.
A pretty easy MADE UP concept. No one is claiming it exists somewhere (in reality, not the wacky "outisde our reality/universe "logic") nor that they've counted to infinity.
Although we can't say for sure that infinity can be actual, I wouldn't say that it's a made up concept. Logically, for reality to make sense, there has to be an infinity of some sort.
I mean, if space ultimately is finite, what is beyond space? No space? What does that even mean?
