(January 24, 2018 at 8:53 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(January 24, 2018 at 7:23 am)Brian37 Wrote: The why is not the primary question scientific method focuses on, but "how" and does not need a "who" as a starting point gap answer.
And no, the idea of the infinite and finite overlapping is simple middle school math. You can LITERALLY draw a finite line on a piece of paper and have an infinite number of integers between.
"Who" as claimed by religious people really is NOTHING MORE than our species protecting it's own qualities in the form of non existent super heros.
Our species was not put here by a super hero. Our plant, our sun, our galaxy nor the universe are a product of a sky wizard by any name.
Not if you took the problem to "spacetime": or this dimension.
The line will never extend past time. Unless we assume that dimensions are loose -with ability to be removed or taken away when wanted-.
Time never stops; as far as science and humans know.
From here; the question asks the thinker: "if time never stops; what prevents infinity from existing"?
God is thought about the same, books like the Quran and religions like Islam strengthen that belief furthermore.
We need to consider the possibility that in this physical local universe (not abstract mathematics), it may not be the case that when we draw a line, we are drawing a line of infinite points. After all, Planck length may be the smallest unit of length possible in this universe. And that may explain why one is able to draw a line or move a certain amount of distance or catch up to the tortoise and speed past it.
Now when it comes to time and space, this is going beyond just this one universe, and it seems like time and space both have to be infinite. There is no "before/after time" or "beyond space" ultimately. You can argue that you can be beyond a certain regional space, but not space ultimately. Just the same for time. You can argue that you can be beyond a certain time stream, but not beyond time ultimately. I say this while ignoring the presentism vs. eternalism debate here, btw. Under eternalism, time is a coordinate/dimension of space (just like length, width, height).
Either way, not sure why God should be deduced from all this. Existence consisting of infinities need not a god behind it.