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The problem with Ramadan
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RE: The problem with Ramadan
(January 27, 2018 at 11:14 pm)Fireball Wrote:
(January 27, 2018 at 9:12 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: How?

I think fasting for 20 hours or so is the exact example of "hardship".
And the verse even said "So whoever among you is ill or on a journey".

And a small cultural lesson; ancient Arabs traveled all year long, and literally lived most of their days on the road.

Nomadic lives, sure. Having a woman not eat or hydrate for some cockamamie reason like religion, causing harm to the child developing in her womb is inexcusable, anywhere on the planet. Or the universe, for that matter. How about your religion takes a fetus into account as "being on a journey", and allows women the "latitude" to properly nourish her baby. Do you have any understanding as to how this looks to the rest of the world, if your women have to go through this? Do you just accept the occasional damaged children as the status quo? FFS. Might as well go put them out for the wolves, if they are defective. SMH

How, and the region was producing fine fit children, who fought and defeated the Eastern Roman empire, Persia, occupied Spain, occupied India...etc.
That doesn't seem to be a nation of sick people to me. Especially when we consider that so many battles were fought in the month of Ramadan.

Moreover; I think we should care more about the garbage non-believing countries produce and call junk food. Obesity is far more fatal than 12 hours of fasting for a month of the year; maybe if modern humans learned to fast, modern humans would lose a lot muffin-tops and weird looking butts. Saturated fats are more fatal than the cherry-picking you introduce.

(January 28, 2018 at 2:10 am)SaStrike Wrote:
(January 27, 2018 at 8:28 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: Yeah, but a lunar calender is stupid, it's not fixed. I mean it's not fixed to the seasons or daylight changes.

He (Muhammad) chose the lunar calender because he claimed the solar calender was based on infidels worshipping the sun. So if muslims fasted according to the solar calender they would be sun worshippers which is very wrong (according to them). There's also the fact that muslims can't pray when the sun is at its highest point in the day.

Guess moon worship is ok though lol.

?????

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar
Quote:This report convinced Umar of the need to introduce an era for Muslims. After debating the issue with his counsellors, he decided that the first year should include the date of Muhammad's arrival at Medina (known as Yathrib, before Muhammad's arrival). Uthman ibn Affan then suggested that the months begin with Muharram, in line with the established custom of the Arabs at that time. The years of the Islamic calendar thus began with the month of Muharram in the year of Muhammad's arrival at the city of Medina, even though the actual emigration took place in Safar and Rabi' I.[1] Because of the Hijra, the calendar was named the Hijra calendar.

Mohammed -Peace be Upon Him- introduced nothing to Muslims regarding date. The Islamic calendar was born long after his death. The second Caliph Umar Ibn Al-Khattab -the same man who fought Persia and Rome together; and won- is the person who introduced the idea of "an era for Muslims".

So; I guess moron quoting of imaginary historical events and contexts is; on the other hand; okay?
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Messages In This Thread
The problem with Ramadan - by CapnAwesome - January 26, 2018 at 7:42 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by vorlon13 - January 26, 2018 at 8:02 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by CapnAwesome - January 26, 2018 at 11:07 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by vorlon13 - January 26, 2018 at 11:11 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by Succubus - January 26, 2018 at 11:14 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by SaStrike - January 27, 2018 at 1:23 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by CapnAwesome - January 27, 2018 at 1:51 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by SaStrike - January 27, 2018 at 2:11 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by CapnAwesome - January 27, 2018 at 8:28 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by SaStrike - January 28, 2018 at 2:10 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by paulpablo - January 27, 2018 at 1:39 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by MysticKnight - January 27, 2018 at 2:10 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by downbeatplumb - January 27, 2018 at 2:50 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by WinterHold - January 27, 2018 at 8:55 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by CapnAwesome - January 27, 2018 at 9:00 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by WinterHold - January 27, 2018 at 9:12 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by Fireball - January 27, 2018 at 11:14 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by WinterHold - January 28, 2018 at 3:39 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by CapnAwesome - January 28, 2018 at 11:48 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by WinterHold - January 29, 2018 at 1:19 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by downbeatplumb - January 28, 2018 at 5:40 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by Minimalist - January 27, 2018 at 9:24 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by WinterHold - January 27, 2018 at 9:42 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by Minimalist - January 29, 2018 at 4:16 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by Nay_Sayer - January 27, 2018 at 11:34 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by SaStrike - January 28, 2018 at 5:17 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by WinterHold - January 28, 2018 at 5:56 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by SaStrike - January 28, 2018 at 6:29 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by Brian37 - January 28, 2018 at 6:42 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by The Grand Nudger - January 29, 2018 at 5:36 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 29, 2018 at 12:46 pm

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