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What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
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What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
What is the source of your problems with Islam?

Let's be honest: worldwide there are so many views that make Islam stand back in the queue of strong sentences.

Let's take the Christian Bible: the old testament advocates pedophilia, slavery, and mass murder.
The Jewish Talmud is even more violent, with sentences that include the pouring of molten lead into the mouth of the condemned:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning#Judaism

And execution for grand treason for deserters of the army in secular countries right before 80 years only.

Don't you think that it's quite hypocritical to leave all of that aside, ignore it, and cherry pick the Quran only?
What is the source of your problems with Islam? This is a real question, not sarcastic.

-Is it the brown skin of Arabs?
-Is it the heritage of Arabs?
-Is it xenophobia + Islamophobia?

Because I truly fail to see why the media -and so many biased people- bash Islam for the cultural actions of Middle Eastern people, and ignore in a very rude way the Jewish & Christian insane texts which live up to be worthy of a doctrine for a torture chamber.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(May 27, 2018 at 10:35 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: What is the source of your problems with Islam?

Let's be honest: worldwide there are so many views that make Islam stand back in the queue of strong sentences.

Let's take the Christian Bible: the old testament advocates pedophilia, slavery, and mass murder.
The Jewish Talmud is even more violent, with sentences that include the pouring of molten lead into the mouth of the condemned:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning#Judaism

And execution for grand treason for deserters of the army in secular countries right before 80 years only.

Don't you think that it's quite hypocritical to leave all of that aside, ignore it, and cherry pick the Quran only?
What is the source of your problems with Islam? This is a real question, not sarcastic.

-Is it the brown skin of Arabs?
-Is it the heritage of Arabs?
-Is it xenophobia + Islamophobia?

Because I truly fail to see why the media -and so many biased people- bash Islam for the cultural actions of Middle Eastern people, and ignore in a very rude way the Jewish & Christian insane texts which live up to be worthy of a doctrine for a torture chamber.
None of the above. It's that there is still stoning and honor killings. I can't even fathom living in such a culture. 

That doesn't mean at all that I mind Islamic people moving to other countries - including the one I live in - quite the opposite. The more pople are exposed to some more humane systems, the better.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(May 27, 2018 at 10:42 am)Dom Wrote:
(May 27, 2018 at 10:35 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: What is the source of your problems with Islam?

Let's be honest: worldwide there are so many views that make Islam stand back in the queue of strong sentences.

Let's take the Christian Bible: the old testament advocates pedophilia, slavery, and mass murder.
The Jewish Talmud is even more violent, with sentences that include the pouring of molten lead into the mouth of the condemned:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning#Judaism

And execution for grand treason for deserters of the army in secular countries right before 80 years only.

Don't you think that it's quite hypocritical to leave all of that aside, ignore it, and cherry pick the Quran only?
What is the source of your problems with Islam? This is a real question, not sarcastic.

-Is it the brown skin of Arabs?
-Is it the heritage of Arabs?
-Is it xenophobia + Islamophobia?

Because I truly fail to see why the media -and so many biased people- bash Islam for the cultural actions of Middle Eastern people, and ignore in a very rude way the Jewish & Christian insane texts which live up to be worthy of a doctrine for a torture chamber.
None of the above. It's that there is still stoning and honor killings. I can't even fathom living in such a culture. 

That doesn't mean at all that I mind Islamic people moving to other countries - including the one I live in - quite the opposite. The more pople are exposed to some more humane systems, the better.

So it is written in the Bible and the Talmud, Wikipedia has an article about it with Millions of readers & editors worldwide, but it's all a "none of the above"; right?

Don't you ever claim that system; it's not yours. Secular philosophers built it, and lots of Europeans rejecting the bible and the Church's authority bled and saw what the bible and the Talmud are. Remember the illumination period -that accompanied the French revolution-?

Sadly, the Church is being revived with the reach of the right wing to the frontier. Without an illumination
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(May 27, 2018 at 10:35 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: What is the source of your problems with Islam?

9/11
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(May 27, 2018 at 11:14 am)Edwardo Piet Wrote:
(May 27, 2018 at 10:35 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: What is the source of your problems with Islam?

9/11

You realize that the proxy that carried on the attacks, was the same proxy America engineered to hit the Soviet Union back in the 80s, right?

Also that's more of an evidence that propaganda is the cause for your hate.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(May 27, 2018 at 11:18 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(May 27, 2018 at 11:14 am)Edwardo Piet Wrote: 9/11

You realize that the proxy that carried on the attacks, was the same proxy America engineered to hit the Soviet Union back in the 80s, right?

Islamic terrorists hijacking a plane and flying it into the twin towers is proxy America?

(May 27, 2018 at 11:18 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: Also that's more of an evidence that propaganda is the cause for your hate.

Actually propaganda is what drives you to deny the reality of your religion at its very worst.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
(May 27, 2018 at 10:59 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(May 27, 2018 at 10:42 am)Dom Wrote: None of the above. It's that there is still stoning and honor killings. I can't even fathom living in such a culture. 

That doesn't mean at all that I mind Islamic people moving to other countries - including the one I live in - quite the opposite. The more pople are exposed to some more humane systems, the better.

So it is written in the Bible and the Talmud, Wikipedia has an article about it with Millions of readers & editors worldwide, but it's all a "none of the above"; right?

Don't you ever claim that system; it's not yours. Secular philosophers built it, and lots of Europeans rejecting the bible and the Church's authority bled and saw what the bible and the Talmud are. Remember the illumination period -that accompanied the French revolution-?

Sadly, the Church is being revived with the reach of the right wing to the frontier. Without an illumination

Illumination period?

What, so radioactive half live will exhaust itself and it will stop glowing?

ROFLOL

My problem with Islam is minor - it exists.  Fix that and I will have no problems with it at all, outside of history books at least.

Whenever a cult demeans the independent intelligence, power of exploration, and judgement of humanity by attempting to impose itself upon mankind based on some bullshit “received wisdom” of any bullshit prophet and make belief god, I will have problem with its very existence.
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
I don't have a problem with Islam in and of itself, just with the fact that there is a lot of radicalism within Islam. And radical Islam aren't strict people who are assholes. Radical Islam are people who believe non Muslims should all be killed (among other horrific things). Apparently 20% of Muslims world wide believe it's good to kill non Muslims, for the mere fact of not being Muslim. That's just an extremely high number, and a very radical view.

But if you are otherwise a peaceful, normal Muslim, then I have no problem with you or with your faith at all.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
You Atlas.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

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RE: What is your problem with Islam? Think about it
I have the same issue with Islam that I have with Christianity; it's unreasonable need to spread a fictional lie merely for population conversion because lack of belief cannot be abided.
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