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This Is A Fair Question
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RE: This Is A Fair Question
(February 3, 2018 at 8:38 pm)Haipule Wrote:
(February 3, 2018 at 7:20 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Belief is the psychological state in which one accepts a premise or proposition as being true. If you accept the proposition that "God" exists, you do believe. This is a separate issue on whether you "trust" or not.


Yeah, I know plenty of people who have turned their lives around without 'Jesus'.

I also graduated from the LAUSD, I've been surfing my entire life, still live in LA, still surf several times a week, didn't graduate college, still have a great career in IT as a network engineer. No magic prayers or gods required.
Awesome!

Any safaris? I started doing Baja to Washington State very young with my brothers and friends. Did 4mos on Bali and 7 in OZ by the time I was 19. I have since been all over the world. I also lived 4yrs on the North Shore of Maui surfing in my backyard which is beyond dreams and yes, God was required!

Costa Rica 3 times, twice before it became a zoo.
Kauai (the only Hawaiian island I've surfed) probably about 12 times (my brother-in-law's parents used to live there, so I always had a place to stay).
Mexico too many times to remember.
El Salvador once ( a country full of Rincons).
Mentawai once.
Maldives once.
Northern California a bunch of times.
Puerto Rico once.

That's about it.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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This Is A Fair Question - by Minimalist - February 2, 2018 at 11:47 am
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