(February 7, 2018 at 1:21 pm)possibletarian Wrote:(February 7, 2018 at 1:23 am)Godscreated Wrote: I know the reality of the God of the Bible, He has proved Himself to me in unique ways, ways I know you want accept, but then they were meant for me.
So in your mind then, unless you can show otherwise
In my mind and soul/heart. I do not have to prove God to you, God hasn't ever called anyone to do so, it is God's job to show you He is real, it's up to you to desire this.
Quote:I'm not stupid I know you don't, but what you believe doesn't change a thing, God is real. If they/you didn't have a problem then why would you even bother talking to Christians. Denial can be a powerful thing, something that usually leads to bad things no matter the subject. Besides not believing in something is still a belief system.
pt Wrote:Denial in what exactly ? you are not showing evidence of anything to deny.
To not believe in some cannot be a belief system that's just utterly stupid.
God of coarse. I haven't the evidence you require, God isn't going to give you physical evidence either. He will give you the evidence you need if you want it.
Clever with the words as atheist like to do to skirt around the subject. Let's say this, your belief is that God is not real, thus a belief system, small and unfounded but a belief ststem nevertheless.
Quote:Prove it's just in my mind, this is a claim I here from atheist all the time and yet none have given an ounce of proof. Generally when a great change comes over someone there is someone behind that change.
pt Wrote:Have you any evidence that it is anything other than in your own mind ? It's not a claim atheists make it's a default stance when people say they believe in invisible untestable things. Just like when people see ghosts, flying pigs, unicorns, and believe in a multitude of other gods.
Yes plenty, as I've said God has given me much evidence of His reality and as I said it was meant for me because I asked. Oh yes it is a claim. I do not know anyone who has seen those things or claimed they have.
pt Wrote:What would your default position be if someone said they had invisible, unprovable unicorns in their back garden, but that you couldn't prove they were just in his mind, and you hadn't provided a shred of evidence. ? You can apply that kind of stupidity to anything.
I haven't said anything close to that and what you posted above is what's stupid. You and the other atheist here like to play the if game, it's a waste of time because it's not something likely to happen to anyone. I will say this though how do you know an invisible unicorn is in your back yard if you haven't seen it, invisible things are difficult for anyone to see.
Quote: I want even bother trying to explain to you what hard things can come into a Christians life. I will say this to you, we have God almighty to lean on when troubles over whelm us.
pt Wrote:And also people who don't believe manage through troubles, your life looks exactly like you believe there is a god, but in fact there simply is not a god.
I used to believe with the fervour you now do, but truly, it's simply not real I was duped just as you are being duped now.
Yeah, like many here do, going to psychiatrist who have different answers for different people, saying what ever might fit the time and situation. You are calling on that belief system again by claiming you know there's no God, and yet you haven't provided one ounce of evidence there's not one.
You never believed as I do, if you had you would not deny the living God. Guess what no one duped me or even tried to get me to believe, I came to it because God called me. Oh yes I was taken to church as a child but no one ever pressured me into believing. The delusion you live with is that your belief system is right and you have no proof it's right, neither physical or spiritual.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.