RE: God is so quiet
February 8, 2018 at 4:31 am
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2018 at 4:37 am by Fake Messiah.)
(February 7, 2018 at 9:27 pm)SteveII Wrote: f. Peter, James and John eventually wrote letters emphasizing the themes found in the gospels
g. Luke wrote Luke and Acts with the purpose of outlining the events from the birth of Christ through his present day
h. The editors of Matthew, Mark, and John were all alive during the lifetimes of these people above (it is unknown if the actual people with the pen were eyewitnesses)
i. The editors would have been know to the recipients of the gospels. The books were name by which apostle influenced that particular book
Yes, they Gospels are such historical accounts written in cooperation with real witnesses and Jesus's apostles that they couldn't agree when was Jesus born (Mathew says during the reign of Herod the Great, who died in 4 BCE while Luke says nine years after king Herod's death); they couldn't agree if Jesus, Mary, and Joseph go to Egypt or Nazareth; some said that Jesus baptized people (like Matthew and Luke said he did while John in 4:2 wrote "Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples.")
I mean if they were really with him would they know what did Jesus did after his baptism? Because Mark said he went to the desert to be tempted by Satan while John says he went to wedding at Cana. Or you would expect then to be consistent in recording where Jesus preached his first sermon because Matthew says it was on a mountain while Luke says on the plain - I mean one said he went up while the other said down. They give completely different reasons of why Jesus was arrested.
I mean it's such a "historical" record that they couldn't agree of when Jesus ascended to heaven because Luke and Mark say same day while John remembers that he and the rest of the apostles hanged out with Jesus for eight more days and in Acts it's written Jesus flew into the sky after 40 days!! And of course they don't agree how many of them were there or where it was, some claim it was in Bethany while others on Mount Olivet and some say it was from the apartment in Jerusalem.
So to call Gospels a historically accurate account is to be oblivious of what historical account means or simply a liar.
I get what you're doing if you repeat a lie enough times it becomes a religion.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"