RE: God is so quiet
February 8, 2018 at 9:57 am
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2018 at 10:00 am by possibletarian.)
(February 8, 2018 at 1:37 am)Godscreated Wrote: In my mind and soul/heart. I do not have to prove God to you, God hasn't ever called anyone to do so, it is God's job to show you He is real, it's up to you to desire this.
Well unfortunately (your) god is very poor at his job he does not seem to be convincing many.
As for desire, why would i 'desire' to believe especially now that i see through the religious scam ?
Quote:God of coarse. I haven't the evidence you require, God isn't going to give you physical evidence either. He will give you the evidence you need if you want it.
Well fair enough, you don't have evidence if there is no physical evidence, then what kind of evidence is there that couldn't easily be attributed to some other means ?.. Almost as if, it's all in the mind.
Quote:Clever with the words as atheist like to do to skirt around the subject. Let's say this, your belief is that God is not real, thus a belief system, small and unfounded but a belief ststem nevertheless.
No need to be clever with words here, it's really simple, to lack belief in something cannot be a belief.
Quote:Yes plenty, as I've said God has given me much evidence of His reality and as I said it was meant for me because I asked. Oh yes it is a claim. I do not know anyone who has seen those things or claimed they have.
But can you show that evidence to anyone else, if not then of what use is it, outside your own beliefs and mind ?
Quote:What would your default position be if someone said they had invisible, unprovable unicorns in their back garden, but that you couldn't prove they were just in his mind, and you hadn't provided a shred of evidence. ? You can apply that kind of stupidity to anything.
Quote:I haven't said anything close to that and what you posted above is what's stupid. You and the other atheist here like to play the if game, it's a waste of time because it's not something likely to happen to anyone. I will say this though how do you know an invisible unicorn is in your back yard if you haven't seen it, invisible things are difficult for anyone to see.
Yes but you are claiming a god for whom you admit there is no evidence outside of your own mind, and you own experience (which is interpreted by your own mind), so we have no reason to think it exists elsewhere. As for how would know about the invisible unicorn, of course you wouldn't that's the very point being made.
Quote: Yeah, like many here do, going to psychiatrist who have different answers for different people, saying what ever might fit the time and situation. You are calling on that belief system again by claiming you know there's no God, and yet you haven't provided one ounce of evidence there's not one.
You never believed as I do, if you had you would not deny the living God. Guess what no one duped me or even tried to get me to believe, I came to it because God called me. Oh yes I was taken to church as a child but no one ever pressured me into believing. The delusion you live with is that your belief system is right and you have no proof it's right, neither physical or spiritual.
Of course I can't provide evidence there is no god, just like you cannot disprove all the other gods people claim, but we can look at the world and see things have natural causes. Your god has gone from the god who makes mountains tremble and seas roar to the god who whimpers in peoples minds.
As a Christian I would have said (more or less) the same things as you, I was as absolute in my faith as you claim to be, and no not believing there is a god is still not a belief system, no matter how many times you repeat it.
Stop being deluded, be sober and look at reality, then you will see that the freedom you have been duped to rejoice in, simply is not freedom at all.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'