(February 8, 2018 at 4:44 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(February 8, 2018 at 12:25 pm)SteveII Wrote: That is definitely not my belief. God does not experience all points in time simultaneously. Quite the contrary. Before the universe: timeless, since the moment of creation: temporal. Given that, there is no logical contradiction in God having a relationship with someone or experiencing desires.
SteveII, I have a problem with any suggestion that God is subject to change. Being fully actualized God's state is in complete satisfaction of His will. For God there can be no before state of unfulfilled desire.
That highlights an apparent problem to which I think Lady Camus points. Does the act of creation in some way complete God, implying a lack of self-sufficiency?
First, I think God changes. Jesus' life would be an experience God did not have prior--a change. A relationship with Christians is a change.
As I answered above, I think that God's desire for relationships is a perfection. We were made in his image and relationship are super important to us and a driving factor in much of what we do. I think you have to distinguish between God lacking a great-making characteristic versus God lacking an experience he prefers to have. I don't think this issue makes the former true.
