God is so quiet

[Godscreated]

In my mind and soul/heart. I do not have to prove God to you, God hasn't ever called anyone to do so, it is God's job to show you He is real, it's up to you to desire this.

Well unfortunately (your) god is very poor at his job he does not seem to be convincing many.
As for desire, why would i 'desire' to believe especially now that i see through the religious scam ?

Really I listened and I know hundreds that have and there are about a billion others in this world that have, seems you've missed out some how.
What you see is what you want to see so you can convince yourself that God is not real and thus you do not have to seek God, you want your own morality so you dismiss God and His unchanging morality.

God of coarse. I haven't the evidence you require, God isn't going to give you physical evidence either. He will give you the evidence you need if you want it.

Well fair enough, you don't have evidence if there is no physical evidence, then what kind of evidence is there that couldn't easily be attributed to some other means ?.. Almost as if, it's all in the mind.

I have the physical evidence, I didn't need it but God gave it to me because he wanted me to grow in a deeper relationship with Him. As you see the leaves moving in the trees and know the wind is blowing, I can see things happen and know God is working in my life or someone else's.

Clever with the words as atheist like to do to skirt around the subject. Let's say this, your belief is that God is not real, thus a belief system, small and unfounded but a belief ststem nevertheless.

No need to be clever with words here, it's really simple, to lack belief in something cannot be a belief.

Semantics, you are playing this game and I'm not going to buy it. Explain how not believing is not related to belief.

Yes plenty, as I've said God has given me much evidence of His reality and as I said it was meant for me because I asked. Oh yes it is a claim. I do not know anyone who has seen those things or claimed they have.

But can you show that evidence to anyone else, if not then of what use is it, outside your own beliefs and mind ?

What more should it be than for my relationship with God. You would just put some degrading name to what I've experienced if I were to share it with you and personally I'm tired of being told I'm things I'm not. You can kick a can all day long but that doesn't mean it will give up what it contains.

What would your default position be if someone said they had invisible, unprovable unicorns in their back garden, but that you couldn't prove they were just in his mind, and you hadn't provided a shred of evidence. ?  You can apply that kind of stupidity to anything.

I haven't said anything close to that and what you posted above is what's stupid. You and the other atheist here like to play the if game, it's a waste of time because it's not something likely to happen to anyone. I will say this though how do you know an invisible unicorn is in your back yard if you haven't seen it, invisible things are difficult for anyone to see.

Yes but you are claiming a god for whom you admit there is no evidence outside of your own mind, and you own experience (which is interpreted by your own mind), so we have no reason to think it exists elsewhere. As for how would know about the invisible unicorn, of course you wouldn't that's the very point being made.

I said there is evidence outside what I know in my heart and mind/soul. You just tagged it with conformation bias and refuse to see. I asked how could the person who claims it's in their back yard see it, I wouldn't expect to.

  Yeah, like many here do, going to psychiatrist who have different answers for different people, saying what ever might fit the time and situation. You are calling on that belief system again by claiming you know there's no God, and yet you haven't provided one ounce of evidence there's not one. 

 You never believed as I do, if you had you would not deny the living God. Guess what no one duped me or even tried to get me to believe, I came to it because God called me. Oh yes I was taken to church as a child but no one ever pressured me into believing. The delusion you live with is that your belief system is right and you have no proof it's right, neither physical or spiritual.

Of course I can't provide evidence there is no god, just like you cannot disprove all the other gods people claim, but we can look at the world and see things have natural causes. Your god has gone from the god who makes mountains tremble and seas roar to  the god who whimpers in peoples minds.

I'll answer the last part first, God does greater things today than shake a mountain or make a stormy sea. God through Jesus saves people every day from hell through His grace when they accept Christ as their savior. So you can't disprove God, but yet you have the gall to say He isn't real. If you can't disprove God then for you there is always the possibility that He is real, this would be only logical. I do not need to disprove any of the other so called gods, I know the true living God who says there are no other gods, by that He means none approaching who He is. They exist only in the minds of those who choose to think they are real. Then there are things like money, cars, jobs and things like that people turn into gods, all useless when it come to an eternal punishment.

As a Christian I would have said (more or less) the same things as you, I was as absolute in my faith as you claim to be, and no not believing there is a god is still not a belief system, no matter how many times you repeat it.

Stop being deluded, be sober and look at reality, then you will see that the freedom you have been duped to rejoice in, simply is not freedom at all. 

 
  You could have never been as absolute in your faith as I am in mine because mine lead me to belief then knowledge of God. Faith is a word tossed around so carelessly today that it's loosing it's real meaning as far as Christianity. You have a lot of answering to do to get me to believe not believing is not a belief system, I pity you, you can't see the God you said you once believed in and now you can't see that you have substituted one belief for another, that's illogical. You claim that your faith was as strong as mine yet you left the God who can save your soul, I did not. This is proof that your faith was like the seed planted in the rocky soil, fleeting, why? No need to answer that why in a post it's meant only for you to consider. You said you would say the same things I do when you were in church, I do not believe you because you have no idea as to what I can say and do say away from this forum. As for on this forum I haven't seen you counter any Bible arguments nor do I believe you can. You wanted out and made excuses to leave and I know this because you can't disprove anything in the scriptures nor can you disprove God. Seems to me you have some serious thinking to do about life.

  The freedom I have you never enjoyed so you can't possibly know that it's not real. My freedom is in the spiritual realm of God and that realm will last forever and it is where i want to be. I'm living reality and I'm as sober minded as any sane man can be. The ones who will reject till their death, Jesus, are the deluded ones, they have talked themselves straight into an eternal punishment and it never needed to happen.

GC