(February 9, 2018 at 7:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(February 9, 2018 at 6:06 pm)possibletarian Wrote: To the Stalin question.
Wouldn't it be easier for god to simply not allow Stalin's to be born given his supposed foreknowledge ?
If his reason for slaughtering some, well correction getting the poor Israelites to murder and slaughter in his name because the slaughtered would someday do mischief of their own is valid. Then are we to assume that those killed by Stalin and Hitler were likewise guilty ?
Otherwise why not simply not allow them to be born, given his full knowledge of what they would do ?
Here's the thing, to put it simply everyone's a Stalin...
I suppose you've heard the phrase "absolute power corrupts absolutely"? That is not exactly accurate, one is already corrupt, it's just that power is the vehicle for one to fully realize the corruption.
What if Stalin never gained any power but was instead a homeless bum? He's still the exact same person he just has no power. God judges the heart so in the eyes of God, there is no difference between Stalin the dictator and Stalin the bum, because given the opportunity the bum would do the exact same thing given the power to do so.
Even Khemikal proved he had a little Stalin in him when he basically stated he'd let humanity be wiped from existence where it concerns his kid.
That's kind of my point Huggy, what makes rubbing sticks together on the Sabbath, or disobeying your parents a stoneable offence, while god happily sits on a cloud watching Stalin kill 58 million people, or Hitler.. or the list goes on. Supposedly in the name of free will !
For instance lets take Onan in the book of genesis who was killed by god for denying his widowed sister in law his seed (not ejaculating in her). His intention was to deny his brother his linage, and so god killed him on the spot. which of course guaranteed the linage would not carry on ironically.
Quote:What if Stalin never gained any power but was instead a homeless bum? He's still the exact same person he just has no power. God judges the heart so in the eyes of God, there is no difference between Stalin the dictator and Stalin the bum, because given the opportunity the bum would do the exact same thing given the power to do so.
Even Khemikal proved he had a little Stalin in him when he basically stated he'd let humanity be wiped from existence where it concerns his kid.
Yes but a homeless bum would not have killed 58 million people, the difference between khemikal and god is that khemikal (in the real world) could have no way of knowing how his son would turn out. If god does not justify killing Stalin, then why do you deride a fellow human for not doing the same ?
But let's go with your scenario, What if Khemikal used the same excuse as most Christians do and said ''well my sons free will is more important than the lives of 58 million people'' would you accept this excuse ?
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'