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Did Muhammad exist?
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RE: Did Muhammad exist?
He was an interesting guy.  His tie-in to heresies and early church history..in case it was overlooked in wiki or you didn't notice it..was that Eusebius of Nicomedia was the man employed to foist christianity upon him in his lonely and paranoiac upbringing.

Eusebius of Nicomedia, along with Eusebius of Ceasaria, are the prominent arian christians who presented doctrine that was declared heresy leading to the nicene creed.  E of C, nevertheless, was a counselor of Constantine and E of N the man who baptized him upon his deathbed. Constantine, for his part, thought that the whole nicene clusterfuck was an inanity. This was an opinion likely shared by Julian, his nephew....though Julian saw utility in christian division whereas Constantine saw it as an obstacle to his rule.

Some of the pushback to arianism is almost certainly to have been informed by it's dangerous proximity to the throne (dangerous to non-arian christians, that is). Declaring it heresy knocked out skilled political operators with familial and economic connections in wealthy suburbs.

(if I remember all of that right, lol..if not, I'm sure someone will be along shortly to correct me.)
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Did Muhammad exist? - by Fake Messiah - February 12, 2018 at 4:21 am
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Minimalist - February 12, 2018 at 12:52 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Catholic_Lady - February 12, 2018 at 1:08 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Minimalist - February 12, 2018 at 1:36 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by paulpablo - February 12, 2018 at 3:10 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Fake Messiah - February 12, 2018 at 3:42 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Brian37 - February 12, 2018 at 4:00 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 12, 2018 at 7:34 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by drfuzzy - February 12, 2018 at 7:42 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 12, 2018 at 8:22 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Amarok - February 12, 2018 at 8:58 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by brewer - February 12, 2018 at 9:12 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Amarok - February 12, 2018 at 9:16 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by brewer - February 12, 2018 at 9:22 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Amarok - February 12, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by brewer - February 12, 2018 at 9:27 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by vulcanlogician - February 12, 2018 at 9:45 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 13, 2018 at 7:11 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Minimalist - February 12, 2018 at 10:53 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2018 at 10:58 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by vulcanlogician - February 12, 2018 at 11:27 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by The Grand Nudger - February 12, 2018 at 11:43 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by vulcanlogician - February 13, 2018 at 12:22 am
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by The Grand Nudger - February 13, 2018 at 12:46 am
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Minimalist - February 13, 2018 at 1:14 am
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by The Grand Nudger - February 13, 2018 at 1:39 am
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by vulcanlogician - February 13, 2018 at 1:56 am
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Minimalist - February 13, 2018 at 2:01 am
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by The Grand Nudger - February 13, 2018 at 2:32 am
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by vulcanlogician - February 13, 2018 at 2:46 am
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by The Grand Nudger - February 13, 2018 at 2:54 am
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by vulcanlogician - February 13, 2018 at 3:15 am
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Pat Mustard - February 14, 2018 at 2:56 pm
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by The Grand Nudger - February 13, 2018 at 3:31 am
RE: Did Muhammad exist? - by Minimalist - February 13, 2018 at 7:50 pm

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