(February 22, 2018 at 9:52 pm)JMT Wrote: I don’t thing my thinking is more or less about theism. But to answer your question, I think it is obviously detectable, as detectable as reason and logic.
I don't think that's true, I mean the part about the supernatural being as detectable as reason or logic. Reason and logic are things which we ourselves engage in so we know them first hand as such. But you think the supernatural is something altogether different and real apart from ourselves. So I ask you why, why do you believe such nonsense?
(February 22, 2018 at 9:52 pm)JMT Wrote: I also wonder why a supernatural explanation is rejected from the get go. If you only permit a natural explanation, that’s all you are bound to see. I’m saying it’s a narrow minded approach. I think every approach should be considered, and the occam’s razor answer heeded. Sometimes the simplest is the best. Certainly my plant taxonomistbprofessors emphasized this, but only in a naturalistic defense of reference.
If you're worried about what you can see forget about the supernatural, it is impervious to our senses supposedly.
But I'm no fan of Occam's razor. Anytime you're forced to rely on it, I say just admit you're not yet in position to know and leave it for tomorrow. But if you want to join in the guessing go right ahead.
(February 22, 2018 at 9:52 pm)JMT Wrote: Let me also address the statement that a god did it explanation is no explanation at all. Let’s say someone from an isolated tribe saw a computer at work. If he asks where it came from and you answered that men invented or built it, that would only tell you who. It wouldn’t tell you how. At the same time the answer men built them would be true. You could possibly go on and explain how, if you knew enough about the origin of computers. So, stating who doesn’t explain how, but it does identify a source.
To say a god did it is to say the answer is beyond us. Nothing more. A real explanation relates what is to be explained to other things we understand and can demonstrate. You cannot demonstrate the supernatural. To argue for the supernatural is to argue for your eternal infancy.
