Sunnies/Shiites lied about apocalypse?

[Brian37]

In the Sunni & Shiite Islamic traditions, Mohammed knew when apocalypse is coming.
It is detailed in the Hadith books of each sect; despite the Quran -Islam's source book- telling another story:

Sura 79, The Quran:
( 42 )   They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the Hour: when is its arrival?
( 43 )   In what [position] are you that you should mention it?
( 44 )   To your Lord is its finality.
( 45 )   You are only a warner for those who fear it.
( 46 )   It will be, on the Day they see it, as though they had not remained [in the world] except for an afternoon or a morning thereof.

Sura 7, The Quran:
( 187 )   They ask you, [O Muhammad], about the Hour: when is its arrival? Say, "Its knowledge is only with my Lord. None will reveal its time except Him. It lays heavily upon the heavens and the earth. It will not come upon you except unexpectedly." They ask you as if you are familiar with it. Say, "Its knowledge is only with Allah, but most of the people do not know."

Until this day; Sunni and Shiite scholars couldn't defend the authenticity of their belief: how the hell does the Quran say that Mohammed doesn't know about apocalypse's coming; but the scholars say that he knew?

It's either Islam is contradicting itself, or the Sunni/Shiite traditions are contradicting Islam.
I believe the latter is true.

Sura 7, Verse 187 alone sets a termination for any Hadith speaking of the end; Mohammed didn't know a thing about the arrival of the hour. If we believed that the verse is divine; then only God knows when the day is coming for sure.

It is scarier than scary, because it looks like that the biblical pov is a mere myth. We have no idea about the end, and mainly it's a great reminded that the true end that is coming no matter what, is death.

There are million ways one can die in. There's no need for dramas and a long-list of events and headless horses.
Death is as close to everybody as their next cigarette or next sugary meal. Or maybe car ride under the influence. And my favorite: American "collateral damage".

Muslims should build and invest in making a better world for their grandsons, not wait for an apocalypse not known when to come but by God.

Atlass, I really DO value your Muslim perspective. But the truth is, the concept of heaven and hell, afterlife and the "end of the world" mythology is much older than the religions of Abraham.  Neither Jews or Christians or Muslims invented the idea of "the end of the world". Polytheists long prior had their own ideas. 

But I do agree, not just Muslims looking for the 12 Imam to signify the final battle, just as bat shit insane are our Christian right wing nuts who want Israel to become a nation to usher in their "end times". Even with Jews who want Israel to become a "Jewish state", I'd tell them Christians on the far right are NOT their friends, because these are the same people who say they wont get into heaven if they don't convert.  To me, that would be like me hiring a limo, inviting you to ride in it, but once we get to the 5 star Ritz Carlton hotel , I tell you, thanks for the company, but stay outside.

I cant stop you from believing in Allah anymore than I can stop a Christian from believing in Jesus, anymore than I can stop a Jew from believing in Yahweh. 

If your argument is "we cant know what God's plan is" and that is your argument against speaking for your God, great. I'd only argue that we make the same argument for all God claims. 

Don't speak for God? GREAT, we agree, but we'd say that to Jews and Christians too.

But I do agree, we need more, not just Muslims, but Jews and Christians and even Buddhists and Hindus, whom focus more on what our fellow humans have in common and less on using religion as political diplomacy.