(March 17, 2018 at 6:33 am)Whateverist Wrote: But wouldn't you agree that from the POV of a YEC it is a moot point? Anyone who thinks creation happened 6,000 years ago must believe that everything we can deduce from observations of the heavens is but a divine hoax.
Yes there are a lot of objections to the creation story, but given the numerous changes in theories about the universe in only the last 180 years, there are a lot of things which we can't account for now, which may well be common knowledge in the future.
As a creationist, I don't know when the universe was created in relation to the age of the earth, but it was there before the earth was created. There are some people who say that the universe was created at the same time, but that can be shown to be false.
The Bible says that the stars were made on the 4th day, and the word for stars leans towards the meaning of planets, as written in the rest of the Torah.
One of the main objections to a young universe is the theory of light and how it reaches earth from distant objects, but there are things in the universe, similar to dark matter, which could slow the speed of light, so that what we think is really old may be a lot younger.
Another possibility is that when something is created, that it's reference of time may begin with it, so there may be no way knowing when the beginning of anything is, let alone the universe.
And the only reference anything has will be to itself.