RE: Christian Privilege
March 18, 2018 at 11:24 am
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2018 at 11:26 am by paulpablo.)
(March 18, 2018 at 10:44 am)Grandizer Wrote:(March 18, 2018 at 9:24 am)paulpablo Wrote: It seems like a conclusion based on circular logic to say people are systematically disadvantaged because of a lack of privilege. Being disadvantaged is a lack of privilege. Saying people are systematically disadvantaged because of a lack of privilege is kind of like making the point that people are short because of a lack of vertical height.
Call it emphasis in different words. You can omit "due to lack of privilege", and the actual argument being made would still stand. So I don't understand why you had to resort to this red herring.
It's not a red herring it's pointing out circular logic. That's what it is if you say people are systematically disadvantaged due to being disadvantaged, saying something is there and the reason that it's there is because it's there. It's using circular logic rather than talking about actual reasons. It wasn't really a big deal just something minor I noticed.
I never said there is one type of privilege, I said there's lots and lots of different types.
Also it makes no difference as to what I said if the privilege being talked about is applied to groups or individuals. I said that in my specific situation it makes sense that if I do focus on correcting unjust prejudice that results in certain types of privilege, it would only really be affective if I focus on what's around me.
I'd never dismiss Christian privilege, it's obviously as real as any other privilege resulting from religious prejudice. Including Muslim privilege that you're dismissing because it isn't "a legitimate sociology term".
Religious discrimination is rife in many Islamic countries. I can't see how different demographics and a different geographical location makes something illegitimate.
I read through the examples of Christian privilege and so far can see none that I get from being an atheist that used to be a Christian.
The examples of Christian privilege are also simply false because of oversimplification in many of those cases.
Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.
Impersonation is treason.