RE: Creationist "Kind" - A Classification with No Definition
March 18, 2018 at 6:41 pm
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2018 at 6:49 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(March 18, 2018 at 5:57 pm)Khemikal Wrote:*emphasis mine*(March 18, 2018 at 5:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: The bible clearly defines a 'kind' as that which is able to produce fertile offspring, every "seed" must bring forth after it's "kind".You must mean same "kind" biblically. Species isn't in the babble, and doesn't need airquotes. Nevertheless, you're talking about groups of animals being the same kind but not the same species, so it doesn;t look like kinds are synonymous with species at all. Hell, the cats aren't just different species in a family they're different genera.
Modern biological definition of species is the same, but they consider geography (these animals don't meet in the wild and therefore don't mate and produce offspring) and physical limitations (a tiger and houscat).
Now if you can artificially inseminate a house cat / Tiger and it produces fertile offspring then according to the biblical definition, they are of the same "species".
Dogs and wolves CAN produce fertile offspring, and therefore are the same "species" biblically.
Just take the survey, lol.
Once again, you're not arguing with me, you're arguing with the dictionary; but what do I know, you're the best debater of the forums

No matter how much mental gymnastics you apply, 'species' and 'kind' are synonymous, no if and or buts.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/species
Quote:species
1 a : kind, sort
Quote:species Synonyms
Synonyms
bracket, category, class, classification, division, family, genus, grade, group, kind, league, order, rank(s), rubric, set, tier, type
(March 18, 2018 at 6:33 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Ah now huggies resorting to the breeding argument . Really huggie a house cat and a lion can breed . So this has been done right and viable fertile offspring came from said union . Tigers and Lions can produce offspring but their not fertile so are the different kind/ species? So once again just hijacking real science and imposing his book of magic on it . species
http://www.ligerworld.com/are-the-ligers-sterile.html
Quote:Female Ligers are not Sterile, but rather they are highly fertile. A Female Liger can reproduce with both lion and tigers. There have been a lot of examples from female ligers, in which a Li-Liger is produced and also a Ti-Liger is produced. Therefore, female Ligers are not sterile at all. It is a very wrong notion to association sterility with Ligers.