RE: Why, God? Why?!
March 19, 2018 at 11:52 am
(This post was last modified: March 19, 2018 at 11:56 am by He lives.)
(March 19, 2018 at 10:00 am)Drich Wrote:(March 17, 2018 at 12:12 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: The points I was making are unrelated to the themes you are focusing on. That's how I know you didn't understand what I wrote.
Then perhaps you could dumb down your situation, So I may be able to comprehend.
(March 16, 2018 at 12:09 pm)He lives Wrote: Drich
I was responding to Jörmungandr When I made my statement. It is important to keep the commandments:
(Old Testament | Ecclesiastes 12:13 - 14)
13 ¶ Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
(New Testament | John 14:15)
15 ¶ If ye love me, keep my commandments.
(New Testament | Matthew 5:16 - 20)
16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
17 ¶ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
I didn't say they weren't important. I said they are no longer the measure of righteousness before God. In that we are not judged worthy or guilty by our adherence to the commandments but rather it is a measure in which we show appreciation or love for being offered atonement.
Do you understand we are not being Judged as 'Christians' but Christ we have retained in us who is judged righteously? That not one of use could stand righteously no matter how good we think ourselves to be?
When I was speaking to Jeorgie I was trying to help her understand the difference from pop Christianity which is an amalgamation of OT Judaism and NT Catholicism where even after the reformation we have people trading good deeds for 'heaven points' to be redeemed at judgement or in wishing ceremonies. Whether she'll ever see or even admit it or not her issue stems from a catholic understanding of God. Which at best is broken. My words were meant to help separate the religious understanding most of us have and compare it not to just a few select verses as you did, but with chapters and books rather than verse scraps crammed together with other scraps.
After all what gives a more complete picture of God 10 verse scraps from 10 different points in the bible or say what a whole book has to say on the subject matter? If one is seeking to worship the God of the bible one must put down the denominational verse scraps that define each version of Christianity, and seek out the broader pictures defined by whole chapters and then reconcile the two if the appose each other.
I don't subscribe to doing deeds to look good in the eyes of men, but I do subscribe in doing good deeds to glorify God. If we have the opportunity to help someone and we don't do it, it is sin. Jesus Christ did take upon himself the sins of the sinner, but he expects the sinner to sin no more. Thank you for defending God.