RE: Pedophilia in the Bible: this is a porn book
March 20, 2018 at 11:48 pm
(This post was last modified: March 20, 2018 at 11:55 pm by WinterHold.)
(March 20, 2018 at 6:55 am)Brian37 Wrote:(March 20, 2018 at 6:42 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: God exists, and he himself "allowed it" to happen, but he didn't "order" people to do it.
Instead; he ordered them not to. That's the concept in the Quran.
God created both good and evil, and even inspired humans to do -and produce- both, but inspiring is different than order. I have Quranic verses that prove my point.
But these bible verses "order the believers" to commit pedophilia. And mentioned it to be "a normal thing" that is also "an example". That would tell me a lot about what I might suffer from if a "Christian believer" waged war on me. Tells me too why the Catholic church is full of pedophiles -if these were the verses they believe to come from a divine source-.
And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites ... And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males ... And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones
It seems that the attacks that targeted "the little ones" were ordered by God himself. The Quran never mentioned such a thing. The Muslims who do so; are:
1-Taking Christians as example.
2-Take the Hadith as a source
So again;Brian:where is similar explicit verses in the Quran?
Hello, McFly.........
You keep missing my point. Stop assuming I am singling you or your religion out. I am pointing out a COMMON social norm that existed worldwide BACK THEN. But even today there are still those in India, in Asia, in the Americas, in Africa that look to their holy writings to justify marriage at a young age.
I could care less if you were a Christian, if nobody is supposed to get married until the age of 18, BACK THEN, then why isn't that clear in any holy book? BECAUSE BACK THEN humans were ignorant. The western modern value of allowing kids to grow up before taking on adult responsibilities is a result of technology and social stability, not the writings of antiquity. Not yours not any.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage <------ The concept of bartering females as "child brides" is not unique to Islam, but there is nothing in the Koran either that demands no sex till the age of 18.
I am NOT singling you or your religion out. My argument is the same with all religions "That was then, this is now."
Modern human psychology and psychiatry are better ways of explaining what a child is capable of understanding and not understanding and why there is no consent between a young kid and an adult. You don't need a holy book of any label to understand that.
Yes; but where are the explicit verses from the Quran that encourage child marriage?
I want direct explicit verses, like the biblical ones.
(March 20, 2018 at 7:15 am)Banned Wrote: A classic misrepresentation of the Bible.No. It's "reading the bible" using the common meanings we know. If there's another language I'm not aware of; please guide me to its source book.
(March 20, 2018 at 7:36 am)alpha male Wrote:(March 20, 2018 at 4:41 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: A sane person will not believe in this. A sane person will never justify this.
This is explicit. This is straight language, talking about "the soldiers of God" being allowed to enslave and do whatever they like to children.
What's explicit and straight is that they kept female virgins alive. What's explicit in other parts of the law is that such captives were made wives with full rights and could not be treated as slaves.
When I read such passages, I assume that they waited until any girls below marriageable age reached such age.
The assumption that they raped children is a product of your own sick mind.
The verse said:
Quote:And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites ... And they warred against the Midianites, as the LORD commanded Moses; and they slew all the males ... And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones ... And Moses was wroth with the officers ... And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? ... Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. Numbers 31:1-18
It told them to keep the children for themselves. Explicitly.
