RE: I still think getting a flu shot is directly linked to getting the flu
March 28, 2018 at 9:55 pm
(March 28, 2018 at 9:50 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:There is evidence that immunizations are sometimes ineffective. Sometimes very effective. Smallpox and polio for instance. The problem with influenza is the rapid rate of mutation, not the vaccine itself.(March 28, 2018 at 9:35 pm)chimp3 Wrote: This article supports what I wrote earlier, that the vaccine sometimes imparts ineffective immunity. Not the OPs assertion that the vaccine causes infection or is "directly linked to " infection. By the way, the vaccine does not kill viruses.
I guess we must be thinking of different types of inactivated vaccines; still, even then, sometimes the detergent fails to disrupt the virus in a split virus vaccine or a subunit vaccine may fail to remove the components of a virus that allow it to survive or reproduce. Maybe "directly linked" may not have been the best phrasing, implying the sort of strong causal link that's been demonstrated between smoking and cancer; then again, when the propter hoc is followed by the post hoc this goddam consistently for some people, there's a reason some people think that.
The point is, it's nowhere near as effective as some like to think, and the evidence does support this claim.
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